What would Atlas be like if it existed in the past?

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WASP style republicans were the equivalent of the Evangelicals in those days

I’m pretty sure Episcopalians weren’t the ones pushing for Prohibition.

Thats not what the WASP's of those days were. WASP's those days were defined by these things generally:


- Being Affluent

- Being very Moralistic

- Fear nation is moving away from them on values

Yes, but their values were generally less agrarian and socially conservative. I put ER as a Southern Democrat because they liked strong moral values, and since ER is southern I figured he'd fit in better. All the WASPs in Massachusetts would laugh at his opinions.

ER is not an agrarian , he’s a suburban sunbelt social conservative that really didn’t exist in those days at all and I believe his family moved from the north to the south at some point . Like I highly doubt ER would be a southerner in the 1890s but even even McKinley got 46% in that state and WJB underperformed in much of the south .


Lastly Massachusetts if today isn’t anywhere near the same as the Massachusetts of the 1890s which was extremely socially conservative. Also no the WASP would not laugh at him at all cause they pretty much were the equalivent  of evangelicals today and not the WASPs of today . You need to really read the Yankee threads where he basically points out the fallacy of using todays perception of states to describe how they were ideologically back then .

Eh. I tried to fit everyone in in their states, even if I had to take some liberty. Not to mention, ER would have probably voted for WJB since he was famously very religious.

I’m sorry but this is not a good understanding of the 1896 election at all since WJB underperformed in the south especially in the more affluent parts of it . WJB was literally like the Bernie/AOC of that time while McKinley was basically the Youngkin of that time and I highly doubt ER would not vote for the Youngkin .

McKinley was no liberal on social issues at all

Virginia isn't really a southern state anymore. And Youngkin is not comparable to ER.

I was comparing Youngkin to McKinley not ER

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Do you feel sorry for Charles Stuart? « on: January 27, 1649, 3:26:27 pm » Hahahaha, Nope! F[inks] that guy.

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"Think freedom sucks? Hate the yeomen? Vote Tory!"

Also, he will never set foot in a shire that was a Cavalier stronghold.

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A f[inks]ing Fifth Monarchist got elected to Bedford Town Council « on: July 5, 1653, 4:18:53 pm »Ugh I am SO F[INKS]ING PISSED right now. It's an at-large seat too so that means THAT I WILL HAVE A FIFTH MONARCHIST REPRESENTING ME ON THE MUNICIPAL CORPORATION BOARD URGH F[INKS]

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WASP style republicans were the equivalent of the Evangelicals in those days

I’m pretty sure Episcopalians weren’t the ones pushing for Prohibition.

Thats not what the WASP's of those days were. WASP's those days were defined by these things generally:


- Being Affluent

- Being very Moralistic

- Fear nation is moving away from them on values

Yes, but their values were generally less agrarian and socially conservative. I put ER as a Southern Democrat because they liked strong moral values, and since ER is southern I figured he'd fit in better. All the WASPs in Massachusetts would laugh at his opinions.

ER is not an agrarian , he’s a suburban sunbelt social conservative that really didn’t exist in those days at all and I believe his family moved from the north to the south at some point . Like I highly doubt ER would be a southerner in the 1890s but even even McKinley got 46% in that state and WJB underperformed in much of the south .


Lastly Massachusetts if today isn’t anywhere near the same as the Massachusetts of the 1890s which was extremely socially conservative. Also no the WASP would not laugh at him at all cause they pretty much were the equalivent  of evangelicals today and not the WASPs of today . You need to really read the Yankee threads where he basically points out the fallacy of using todays perception of states to describe how they were ideologically back then .

Eh. I tried to fit everyone in in their states, even if I had to take some liberty. Not to mention, ER would have probably voted for WJB since he was famously very religious.

I’m sorry but this is not a good understanding of the 1896 election at all since WJB underperformed in the south especially in the more affluent parts of it . WJB was literally like the Bernie/AOC of that time while McKinley was basically the Youngkin of that time and I highly doubt ER would not vote for the Youngkin .

McKinley was no liberal on social issues at all

Virginia isn't really a southern state anymore. And Youngkin is not comparable to ER.

I was comparing Youngkin to McKinley not ER

Suburbs didn't exist back then in the same way. Where he currently lives (thanks Dule for posting that one) he'd live in rural areas. I just figured he'd be a ultra-christian bigoted southerner (although for the times he wouldn't actually be bad).

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Prohibition is the law of the land! « on: January 17, 1920 at 12:00:00 AM » This is the happiest day of my life! The crime rate will plummet to zero and domestic violence and poverty will be eradicated at last!

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Opinion of this propaganda poster I found « on: January 17, 1863 at 11:32:51 AM » Haha this is so awesome, I just saw it in a saloon. "The Virgin Robert E. Lee vs. The Chad Ulysses S. Grant", it's definitely a Freedom Poster!

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Do you feel sorry for Charles Stuart? « on: January 27, 1649, 3:26:27 pm » Hahahaha, Nope! F[inks] that guy.

"All Roundhead all the time! Woohoo!"

"Think freedom sucks? Hate the yeomen? Vote Tory!"

Also, he will never set foot in a shire that was a Cavalier stronghold.

A f[inks]ing Fifth Monarchist got elected to Bedford Town Council « on: July 5, 1653, 4:18:53 pm »

Ugh I am SO F[INKS]ING PISSED right now. It's an at-large seat too so that means THAT I WILL HAVE A FIFTH MONARCHIST REPRESENTING ME ON THE MUNICIPAL CORPORATION BOARD URGH F[INKS] All Puritan, all the time! Better Turkish Than Papist Atlas Institution ★★★★★ Posts: 101,018

Why would I be a Puritan?

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Ralph Nader is one of the most evil people in human history « on: December 12, 2000 at 02:54:38 AM » Ralph Nader screwed Gore out of this election. Bush and the Republican Congress will impose Christian theocracy and it will all be Nader’s fault.

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Why would I be a Puritan?

Because they were the liberals of their day.

[darklordoftech]

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I’m so angry at Roosevelt and the Bull Moosers « on: August 5, 1912 at 02:54:38 AM » Roosevelt’s Bull Moose campaign is going to take votes away from Taft and make Wilson President, and Wilson will bring back slavery.

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Marilyn Manson should get the death penalty « on: April 20th 1999 at 1:00:00pm » He obviously caused the shooting that occured today. How could anyone disagree?

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Marilyn Manson should get the death penalty « on: April 20th 1999 at 1:00:00pm » He obviously caused the shooting that occured today. How could anyone disagree?

I think I'm missing some context here. Did OSR express a similar sentiment during some recent incident?

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Marilyn Manson should get the death penalty « on: April 20th 1999 at 1:00:00pm » He obviously caused the shooting that occured today. How could anyone disagree?

I think I'm missing some context here. Did OSR express a similar sentiment during some recent incident?

I was referencing OSR’s views on sex ed, “don’t say gay”,  “critical race theory”, etc.

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Current School Republican Computer89 Atlas Superstar ★★★★★ Posts: 24,882

Marilyn Manson should get the death penalty « on: April 20th 1999 at 1:00:00pm » He obviously caused the shooting that occured today. How could anyone disagree?

I think I'm missing some context here. Did OSR express a similar sentiment during some recent incident?

I was referencing OSR’s views on sex ed, “don’t say gay”,  “critical race theory”, etc.

You may disagree with my view on the Florida bill or CRT or sex Ed but I would never ever say something as outrageous as that .

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Current School Republican Computer89 Atlas Superstar ★★★★★ Posts: 24,882

Marilyn Manson should get the death penalty « on: April 20th 1999 at 1:00:00pm » He obviously caused the shooting that occured today. How could anyone disagree?

I think I'm missing some context here. Did OSR express a similar sentiment during some recent incident?

I was referencing OSR’s views on sex ed, “don’t say gay”,  “critical race theory”, etc.

You may disagree with my view on the Florida bill or CRT or sex Ed but I would never ever say something as outrageous as that .

Maybe not the death penalty part, no, but you'd be surprised by how mainstream holding "edgy" singers or filmmakers or whatever personally responsible for mass shootings was for the first decade or so of their relevance as a national issue.

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Current School Republican Computer89 Atlas Superstar ★★★★★ Posts: 24,882

Marilyn Manson should get the death penalty « on: April 20th 1999 at 1:00:00pm » He obviously caused the shooting that occured today. How could anyone disagree?

I think I'm missing some context here. Did OSR express a similar sentiment during some recent incident?

I was referencing OSR’s views on sex ed, “don’t say gay”,  “critical race theory”, etc.

You may disagree with my view on the Florida bill or CRT or sex Ed but I would never ever say something as outrageous as that .

Maybe not the death penalty part, no, but you'd be surprised by how mainstream holding "edgy" singers or filmmakers or whatever personally responsible for mass shootings was for the first decade or so of their relevance as a national issue.

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Mandatory School Prayer Outlawed « on: June 23, 1962 at 12:40:00 AM » This is the worst day for freedom yet! Everyone knows America is a Christian nation, and as a proud Christian Nationalist I don't see a reason why people like Jews or Muslims shouldn't have to worship a deity that is completely counter to their own religious beliefs. We have to remember the suffering of Christians under the brutal Nazi regime. The Bible merely promotes traditional values like respecting life from conception to birth.

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quote of darklordoftech, who this post also applies to

You know, the point of posting in a thread called "What would Atlas be like if it existed in the past?" is to come up with posts that Atlas users – even the ones you hate and want desperately to strawman – would actually write.

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Unbelievable, I got excluded from a USSR TL.

I did think about it, but it's kind of hard to parody an anti-establishment leftist in the context of the late Soviet Union. I have no idea where you'd fit into this analogy unless maybe you'd be, like, a Titoist who hates the Soviet system through-and-through but are still a Marxist. What do you think?

He would probably have been an anarcho-capitalist.

Ftr, you could have put me at this point as part of the old school pro-Stalin CPSU apparatchik or apart of the Maoist/anti-revisionist trend in the Soviet Union. Earlier it would make sense as putting me as a “Left Oppositionist” or “Left Communist”.

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Do you feel sorry for Robert E. Lee? « on: September 28, 1870 at 7:42:54 PM » I know he just suffered a stroke, but NOPE

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Do you feel sorry for Robert E. Lee? « on: September 28, 1870 at 7:42:54 PM » I know he just suffered a stroke, but NOPE

That would have been unironically based if it happened.

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Murdering babies legalized nationwide « on: January 22, 1973 at 12:00:00 AM » I can’t believe the SCOTUS would do such a thing. They ruled that there’s a Constitutional right to murder babies.

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Murdering babies legalized nationwide « on: January 22, 1973 at 12:00:00 AM » I can’t believe the SCOTUS would do such a thing. They ruled that there’s a Constitutional right to murder babies.

Is ER actually Catholic though? I thought he's Protestant?

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Murdering babies legalized nationwide « on: January 22, 1973 at 12:00:00 AM » I can’t believe the SCOTUS would do such a thing. They ruled that there’s a Constitutional right to murder babies.

Is ER actually Catholic though? I thought he's Protestant?

I’m not sure, but I forgot whether it’s ER/ExtremeRepublican or EC/ExtremeConservative and didn’t want to bother going through lots of pages in threads to find out.

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Murdering babies legalized nationwide « on: January 22, 1973 at 12:00:00 AM » I can’t believe the SCOTUS would do such a thing. They ruled that there’s a Constitutional right to murder babies.

Is ER actually Catholic though? I thought he's Protestant?

I’m not sure, but I forgot whether it’s ER/ExtremeRepublican or EC/ExtremeConservative and didn’t want to bother going through lots of pages in threads to find out.

IIRC he was raised Catholic but is now non-denominational.