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« on: October 21, 2014, 09:05:49 PM »
« edited: October 26, 2014, 03:51:01 PM by Senator Lumine (PPT) »

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Senator JCL, as sponsor you have 24 hours to advocate for this act.
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2014, 10:33:58 PM »

Motion to table.
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2014, 10:34:20 PM »

lmao JCL
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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2014, 02:17:09 PM »

Table it and be done with this nonsense.
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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2014, 05:53:59 PM »

Make it stop.
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2014, 06:06:42 PM »

Motion to table acknowledged, but like with an earlier bill I will wait for the sponsor to make his case before starting the vote (unless it takes too long).
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2014, 06:32:17 PM »

Thank you PPT Lumine and fellow Senators,

I have absolutely no problems with the right of labor unions to advocate for better conditions and compensation for their membership. Taft-Hartley protects that. It also laid out provisions to prevent social unrest due to labor stoppages. Do not business owners have the right to protect their property against violent strikes? Section 2 proscribes the practice of "Card Check" due to the fact that "card check" gives unions undue and overwhelming influence and forbids management its rights to protect its right to whatever business practices it chooses within the scope of preceding labor laws. Should non-Union labor have the right to enter whatever field they choose without governmental or corporate coercion or force? I and legal(American) precedence would have to say yes.

To those who wish to table my bill, what is your foundational problem with management reasonably protecting their interests?
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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2014, 06:40:37 PM »

Can the Senator outline any recent examples where this practiced has created the circumstances he seems so concerned over?
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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2014, 02:09:09 AM »

I'll counter Polnut's question with this,

Why should unions have the right to prevent a secret ballot?
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2014, 07:55:32 AM »

Are you aware that section 2 is blatantly unconstitutional, JCL?
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« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2014, 11:38:39 AM »

Are you aware that section 2 is blatantly unconstitutional, JCL?

Show me where the Atlasian constitution would forbid section 2. Unions don't have the right to force an individual to publicly reveal how they voted in a election to decide wether or not to bring a union into a company.
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« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2014, 01:18:33 PM »

Are you aware that section 2 is blatantly unconstitutional, JCL?

Show me where the Atlasian constitution would forbid section 2. Unions don't have the right to force an individual to publicly reveal how they voted in a election to decide wether or not to bring a union into a company.
"is hereby banned and can never be brought up for reinstatement" being the relevant part.
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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2014, 02:27:20 PM »

Senator JCL has advocated now. Motion to table.
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« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2014, 04:50:48 PM »

Senator JCL isthe best thing to ever happen to Atlasia imo
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« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2014, 06:02:13 PM »

Second the motion to table.
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« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2014, 06:15:10 PM »

We will start voting on the motion to table now, Senators please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
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« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2014, 07:43:03 PM »

Are you aware that section 2 is blatantly unconstitutional, JCL?

Show me where the Atlasian constitution would forbid section 2. Unions don't have the right to force an individual to publicly reveal how they voted in a election to decide wether or not to bring a union into a company.
"is hereby banned and can never be brought up for reinstatement" being the relevant part.


It is not unconstitutional, it will have the force of law up and until a future Senate repeals it. Tongue It is not unconstitutional, it is hollow though.
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« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2014, 12:45:01 PM »

Are you aware that section 2 is blatantly unconstitutional, JCL?

Show me where the Atlasian constitution would forbid section 2. Unions don't have the right to force an individual to publicly reveal how they voted in a election to decide wether or not to bring a union into a company.
"is hereby banned and can never be brought up for reinstatement" being the relevant part.


It is not unconstitutional, it will have the force of law up and until a future Senate repeals it. Tongue It is not unconstitutional, it is hollow though.

Getting my constitutions mixed up Tongue It would be unconstitutional in Britain.
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« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2014, 01:10:49 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2014, 02:24:46 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2014, 09:50:14 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2014, 10:35:18 PM »

AYE
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« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2014, 12:05:39 AM »

Are you aware that section 2 is blatantly unconstitutional, JCL?

Show me where the Atlasian constitution would forbid section 2. Unions don't have the right to force an individual to publicly reveal how they voted in a election to decide wether or not to bring a union into a company.
"is hereby banned and can never be brought up for reinstatement" being the relevant part.


It is not unconstitutional, it will have the force of law up and until a future Senate repeals it. Tongue It is not unconstitutional, it is hollow though.

Getting my constitutions mixed up Tongue It would be unconstitutional in Britain.

That is because the British Constitution consists of whatever David Cameron and Nick Clegg feel like putting in there that morning. Tongue
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« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2014, 12:06:23 AM »

NAy for the same reason as the other bill
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« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2014, 10:55:54 PM »

Abstain
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