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« on: June 27, 2016, 10:00:11 PM »

I guess this is a step in the right direction

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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2016, 10:09:42 PM »

Baby steps.  So I guess the person who handles the marriage certificate decides if you "pass" or not?
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2016, 02:55:01 AM »

The official council of Pakistani clerics (or some stupid name like that) rejected an anti-pedophilia Bill in Jan because it was anti-Islamic.  They are also cool with marrying a 9 year old, as long as she's hit puberty.

You never know what you're going to get from a Pakistani cleric.
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2016, 04:26:04 PM »

I'm not very surprised, given the history of sexuality in that region (though the strong language used by the clerics is remarkable).
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2016, 05:23:01 PM »

I'm not very surprised, given the history of sexuality in that region (though the strong language used by the clerics is remarkable).

Yep, this shouldn't come to a surprise to anybody, Pakistan have the so called third gender, which is a integrated part of their culture. Also if we look to their neighbour in Iran, it have been a policy for years, where they recognise transgender people as having been born in the wrong body. So the Iranian seek treat transgendered not as a mental disorder, but as a physical one, which can be cured by people being changed into their correct gender.

As such this seem less of liberal cleric and more "a broken clock being right twice a day".
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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2016, 02:21:09 PM »

Muslim societies have been much more tolerant of transgenderism in general.
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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2016, 08:00:25 PM »

 what Ingemann said: "a broken clock being right twice a day"
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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2016, 02:06:40 AM »

I'm not very surprised, given the history of sexuality in that region (though the strong language used by the clerics is remarkable).

Yep, this shouldn't come to a surprise to anybody, Pakistan have the so called third gender, which is a integrated part of their culture. Also if we look to their neighbour in Iran, it have been a policy for years, where they recognise transgender people as having been born in the wrong body. So the Iranian seek treat transgendered not as a mental disorder, but as a physical one, which can be cured by people being changed into their correct gender.

As such this seem less of liberal cleric and more "a broken clock being right twice a day".

Yeah, I've always found that historical and modern context to be fascinating, if a bit horrifying. Enlightened and modern views on transgender people (moreso than many on this forum, for that matter), but very regressive views on openly gay people.
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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2016, 05:12:37 AM »

Well that's the problem with using words like 'enlightened' and especially given the reasoning 'modern'.
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