Vatican's new rule: not allowed to scatter cremated ashes, or keep at home

[Blue3]

Well this is a step backwards in the realm of common sense.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/vatican-no-more-scattering-cremation-ashes-100117264.html

Opinions?

Any valid justification?

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

"OMG, I am so unfulfilled by not being able to pour ashes all over the place!"

[Enduro]

That's why I'm not Catholic, and don't listen to anything the Vatican or the Pope has to say. I'll bury my loved ones the way they wanted, thank you very much

[Blue3]

"OMG, I am so unfulfilled by not being able to pour ashes all over the place!"

This is not a normal reaction...

[Small L]

New rule? This has always been the teaching. Don't have your ashes scattered. It has to do with showing proper respect to a human body.

Also, if your reason for not being Catholic really is that you want to scatter people's ashes all over the place, or keep Grandma in the china cabinet, I would seriously question your priorities.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

"OMG, I am so unfulfilled by not being able to pour ashes all over the place!"

This is not a normal reaction...

Finally admitting that all this caring stuff you people do is absurd is abnormal? Oh, wow.

[Blue3]

New rule? This has always been the teaching. Don't have your ashes scattered. It has to do with showing proper respect to a human body.

Also, if your reason for not being Catholic really is that you want to scatter people's ashes all over the place, or keep Grandma in the china cabinet, I would seriously question your priorities.

No? I've known priests who were cremated and the church scattered their ashes in the ocean.

As the article says

But in 1963, the Vatican explicitly allowed cremation as long as it didn't suggest a denial of faith about resurrection.

And who said this will prevent someone from being Catholic? I'm saying it's a step backwards.

"OMG, I am so unfulfilled by not being able to pour ashes all over the place!"

This is not a normal reaction...

Finally admitting that all this caring stuff you people do is absurd is abnormal? Oh, wow.

[Green Line]

It's not good to litter.

[Small L]

New rule? This has always been the teaching. Don't have your ashes scattered. It has to do with showing proper respect to a human body.

Also, if your reason for not being Catholic really is that you want to scatter people's ashes all over the place, or keep Grandma in the china cabinet, I would seriously question your priorities.

No? I've known priests who were cremated and the church scattered their ashes in the ocean.

As the article says

But in 1963, the Vatican explicitly allowed cremation as long as it didn't suggest a denial of faith about resurrection.

If you google around it isn't hard to find sources that show the Church already clearly taught against scattering as recently as 2012, so this "new rule" is not new. If you read the document from 1963, you'll see that while it allows for cremation, it does not mention the spreading of ashes. This is not the type of issue in which silence should be interpreted as the loosening of a restriction. On the contrary, we have the USCCB and canon lawyers stating very clearly that the spreading of ashes is not in keeping with proper reverence for a human body.

Allowing for cremation ≠ allowing the spreading of ashes.

And who said this will prevent someone from being Catholic? I'm saying it's a step backwards.

I was responding facetiously to this post:

That's why I'm not Catholic, and don't listen to anything the Vatican or the Pope has to say. I'll bury my loved ones the way they wanted, thank you very much

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

New rule? This has always been the teaching. Don't have your ashes scattered. It has to do with showing proper respect to a human body.

Also, if your reason for not being Catholic really is that you want to scatter people's ashes all over the place, or keep Grandma in the china cabinet, I would seriously question your priorities.

It's a little bit broader for me: I'm not going to let some old men in Rome dictate my life or be the foundation of my relationship with God.

[RI]

New rule? This has always been the teaching. Don't have your ashes scattered. It has to do with showing proper respect to a human body.

Also, if your reason for not being Catholic really is that you want to scatter people's ashes all over the place, or keep Grandma in the china cabinet, I would seriously question your priorities.

It's a little bit broader for me: I'm not going to let some old men in Rome dictate my life or be the foundation of my relationship with God.

"Some old men in Rome" who happen to be God's chosen successors on Earth.

[afleitch]

New rule? This has always been the teaching. Don't have your ashes scattered. It has to do with showing proper respect to a human body.

Also, if your reason for not being Catholic really is that you want to scatter people's ashes all over the place, or keep Grandma in the china cabinet, I would seriously question your priorities.

It's a little bit broader for me: I'm not going to let some old men in Rome dictate my life or be the foundation of my relationship with God.

"Some old men in Rome" who happen to be God's chosen successors on Earth.

According to themselves.

[Figueira]

That's why I'm not Catholic, and don't listen to anything the Vatican or the Pope has to say. I'll bury my loved ones the way they wanted, thank you very much

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

New rule? This has always been the teaching. Don't have your ashes scattered. It has to do with showing proper respect to a human body.

Also, if your reason for not being Catholic really is that you want to scatter people's ashes all over the place, or keep Grandma in the china cabinet, I would seriously question your priorities.

It's a little bit broader for me: I'm not going to let some old men in Rome dictate my life or be the foundation of my relationship with God.

"Some old men in Rome" who happen to be God's chosen successors on Earth.

[RI]

New rule? This has always been the teaching. Don't have your ashes scattered. It has to do with showing proper respect to a human body.

Also, if your reason for not being Catholic really is that you want to scatter people's ashes all over the place, or keep Grandma in the china cabinet, I would seriously question your priorities.

It's a little bit broader for me: I'm not going to let some old men in Rome dictate my life or be the foundation of my relationship with God.

"Some old men in Rome" who happen to be God's chosen successors on Earth.

Well, if there were ever a relevant time to use that Hillary gif, you nailed it.

[DC Al Fine]

New rule? This has always been the teaching. Don't have your ashes scattered. It has to do with showing proper respect to a human body.

Also, if your reason for not being Catholic really is that you want to scatter people's ashes all over the place, or keep Grandma in the china cabinet, I would seriously question your priorities.

It's a little bit broader for me: I'm not going to let some old men in Rome dictate my life or be the foundation of my relationship with God.

I'm Protestant and even I can admit this is a ridiculous strawman of Catholicism.

[DC Al Fine]

Well this is a step backwards in the realm of common sense.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/vatican-no-more-scattering-cremation-ashes-100117264.html

Opinions?

Any valid justification?

Arguing against a religious policy using arguments outside the religious system is unproductive. Eventually it all boils down to 'I reject the premises behind ________'.

You'd be better off asking if Catholicism is true.

[Illiniwek]

Cool with me.

[White Trash]

Those "old men in Rome" have a direct theological lineage that goes back to Christ himself. Something that Protestant churches can't quite claim. Not saying that this justifies all of their decisions of course, but to dismiss them with that kind of straw man is really ridiculous.

[Mopsus]

New rule? This has always been the teaching. Don't have your ashes scattered. It has to do with showing proper respect to a human body.

Also, if your reason for not being Catholic really is that you want to scatter people's ashes all over the place, or keep Grandma in the china cabinet, I would seriously question your priorities.

It's a little bit broader for me: I'm not going to let some old men in Rome dictate my life or be the foundation of my relationship with God.

"Some old men in Rome" who happen to be God's chosen successors on Earth.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Gotta love how Atlas will use anything as a pretext to reenact the Kulturkampf.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

This is more lenient than the funerary rules of plenty of other religions that don't get nearly this much grief about them.