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Tetro Kornbluth
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« on: February 25, 2017, 05:16:28 PM »

They should at least having the f-cking dignity to pay for the Customs Posts we are going to have to put up without actually wanting it, and in violation of our constitution, in spirit at least.
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2017, 05:30:27 PM »

Alternatively, how about the UK does what they want and you get nothing?

     This seems more likely than the wishful thinking displayed by the liberal internationalists in this thread, given the success Theresa May has had in placing Britain in a position of strength. By issuing the threat of making her nation a tax haven, the EU bureaucrats are desperate to meet her demands. It's quite brilliant, really.

I'm sorry, but this is totally delusional.

For a start for the UK to become a serious tax haven they would have cut spending massively. Will this happen? Highly unlikely. Secondly, the EU can easily restrict access to the UK market for banks and individuals post-Brexit, that is in part what the debate about 'passporting' is about (and the EU already has its own tax havens like Liechtenstein, which the UK could never match). The UK is in an extremely weak position and there's no reason to think that the EU will roll over unless you are a deluded Brexiteer.
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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2017, 09:49:40 AM »

Alternatively, how about the UK does what they want and you get nothing?

     This seems more likely than the wishful thinking displayed by the liberal internationalists in this thread, given the success Theresa May has had in placing Britain in a position of strength. By issuing the threat of making her nation a tax haven, the EU bureaucrats are desperate to meet her demands. It's quite brilliant, really.

I'm sorry, but this is totally delusional.

For a start for the UK to become a serious tax haven they would have cut spending massively. Will this happen? Highly unlikely. Secondly, the EU can easily restrict access to the UK market for banks and individuals post-Brexit, that is in part what the debate about 'passporting' is about (and the EU already has its own tax havens like Liechtenstein, which the UK could never match). The UK is in an extremely weak position and there's no reason to think that the EU will roll over unless you are a deluded Brexiteer.

     I saw plenty of concerned European leftists, but European leftists taking something seriously is probably evidence enough that it's delusional nonsense.

What the hell are you talking about?

There is no chance of the UK becoming a serious tax haven - it would have to compete with Liechtenstein for example. It's too big.
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2017, 11:13:08 AM »

Alternatively, how about the UK does what they want and you get nothing?

     This seems more likely than the wishful thinking displayed by the liberal internationalists in this thread, given the success Theresa May has had in placing Britain in a position of strength. By issuing the threat of making her nation a tax haven, the EU bureaucrats are desperate to meet her demands. It's quite brilliant, really.

I'm sorry, but this is totally delusional.

For a start for the UK to become a serious tax haven they would have cut spending massively. Will this happen? Highly unlikely. Secondly, the EU can easily restrict access to the UK market for banks and individuals post-Brexit, that is in part what the debate about 'passporting' is about (and the EU already has its own tax havens like Liechtenstein, which the UK could never match). The UK is in an extremely weak position and there's no reason to think that the EU will roll over unless you are a deluded Brexiteer.

     I saw plenty of concerned European leftists, but European leftists taking something seriously is probably evidence enough that it's delusional nonsense.

What the hell are you talking about?

There is no chance of the UK becoming a serious tax haven - it would have to compete with Liechtenstein for example. It's too big.

In many ways it already is. It is really shoddy in terms of transparency, has a low corporate tax rate, has the whole non-dom farce and the City of London is basically the heart of the international tax avoidance network.

Of course though, like you said, it has way to many spending commitments (you know welfare, universities, schools, the NHS and all that yucky stuff) to match Liechtenstein's tax rates.

I mean, UK public spending is about 43% of GDP. If it wanted to even match Switzerland (which is still not anywhere close to Liechtenstein levels), where public spending is more like 34% of GDP, it would basically have to cut spending by the equivalent of the whole NHS. Imagine how that goes down.


Oh yeah, that's the other thing. Wanting to be a 'European Singapore'

The rate of Corporate Tax in the UK is the exact same as Singapore, and only slightly larger than Ireland's, who will continue to have single market access after Brexit

(And not that's even mentioning Singapore's land use policies and the fact that's a city state, completely incoherent goal for the UK to become).
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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2017, 10:18:41 AM »

(And not that's even mentioning Singapore's land use policies and the fact that's a city state, completely incoherent goal for the UK to become).

Not if you don't think there's a UK outside of London. Which appears to have been economic policy for the past thirty years.

Of course, how silly of me, the UK ends at the end of the London Green Belt. At least that's how the Singapore-ists in the May government seem to imagine it.
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