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« on: October 08, 2009, 02:21:16 PM »

     Trying to plot historical fascism in the left-right political spectrum was the major mistake, actually.
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2009, 10:17:38 PM »


When the only options are left, center, and right, then yes, he was a rightist. Same as Stalin was a leftist. I don't see why this is so hard for conservatives to admit.

     That is assuming that the left-right spectrum as known in the United States is adequate to summarize fascism, which is something of a stretch.
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2009, 02:50:10 PM »

The political spectrum is pretty much irrelevant. It should be a scale from those who want the least restrictions on human liberty to those who want the most.

So basically, it would go from left to right:
Anarchism - Libertarianism - Socialism - Conservatism - Authoritarianism

     So centrists don't count?
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2009, 03:24:38 PM »

The political spectrum is pretty much irrelevant. It should be a scale from those who want the least restrictions on human liberty to those who want the most.

So basically, it would go from left to right:
Anarchism - Libertarianism - Socialism - Conservatism - Authoritarianism

     So centrists don't count?

Not a clear enough term. You could have called me a centrist a year ago, when I was pro-temperance.

     Well you have centrists in the left-right spectrum, even though it's not any clearer there.

     That aside, if you are talking strictly about social liberty, then there are two main currents there. Anarchists, libertarians, & socialists mainly clash on the notion of positive liberty, though the social views of socialists need not be as clearly pigeonholed. Conservatives & authoritarians function well as a continuum, actually.

     If you are also talking about economic liberty, it is not altogether clear that socialists should be to the left of conservatives, since socialists support far more regulation & public ownership of industries.
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