Gallup with some sobering analysis re: Biden’s approval rating

[kwabbit]

but his rating from independents is also weak, at 33%

To quote Brian Griffin, “Independent voters are the biggest idiots on the planet.” I do not understand how anyone outside the right wing media bubble can disapprove of Joe Biden. The economy is better than it was before Covid. We got gun control and infrastructure passed. Insulin is capped at $35. What is wrong with these people?

The economy is not doing better than it was before COVID. Even after the economy returned to full employment there has been basically zero real wage growth. The recent economic news has really weakened Biden's strong economy message. Before it did look like Biden might have an unambiguously strong economy going into November but that looks much less likely now.

[GAinDC]

but his rating from independents is also weak, at 33%

To quote Brian Griffin, “Independent voters are the biggest idiots on the planet.” I do not understand how anyone outside the right wing media bubble can disapprove of Joe Biden. The economy is better than it was before Covid. We got gun control and infrastructure passed. Insulin is capped at $35. What is wrong with these people?

The economy is not doing better than it was before COVID. Even after the economy returned to full employment there has been basically zero real wage growth. The recent economic news has really weakened Biden's strong economy message. Before it did look like Biden might have an unambiguously strong economy going into November but that looks much less likely now.

What?? Come on now, the economy is still on the right track. Inflation is way down and we’ve only had one quarter of slower economic growth. But isn’t that what we needed for our soft landing??

Anyway, perceptions about the economy are pretty much partisan these days.  If Trump was president with the same economy, every Republican would be going on and on about how great it is.

[kwabbit]

but his rating from independents is also weak, at 33%

To quote Brian Griffin, “Independent voters are the biggest idiots on the planet.” I do not understand how anyone outside the right wing media bubble can disapprove of Joe Biden. The economy is better than it was before Covid. We got gun control and infrastructure passed. Insulin is capped at $35. What is wrong with these people?

The economy is not doing better than it was before COVID. Even after the economy returned to full employment there has been basically zero real wage growth. The recent economic news has really weakened Biden's strong economy message. Before it did look like Biden might have an unambiguously strong economy going into November but that looks much less likely now.

What?? Come on now, the economy is still on the right track. Inflation is way down and we’ve only had one quarter of slower economic growth. But isn’t that what we needed for our soft landing??

Anyway, perceptions about the economy are pretty much partisan these days.  If Trump was president with the same economy, every Republican would be going on and on about how great it is.

Inflation just went up amid a quarter of slow growth. Real wages are down quarter to quarter. There's still full employment however, but we'll see about the next jobs report. The two surveys have been diverging.

If you asked me a month ago I would've said that things were going pretty well but the mood has changed. A staglflationary environment has become much more likely. It's definitely not a particularly great economy, even if it's still fine overall.

[GAinDC]

but his rating from independents is also weak, at 33%

To quote Brian Griffin, “Independent voters are the biggest idiots on the planet.” I do not understand how anyone outside the right wing media bubble can disapprove of Joe Biden. The economy is better than it was before Covid. We got gun control and infrastructure passed. Insulin is capped at $35. What is wrong with these people?

The economy is not doing better than it was before COVID. Even after the economy returned to full employment there has been basically zero real wage growth. The recent economic news has really weakened Biden's strong economy message. Before it did look like Biden might have an unambiguously strong economy going into November but that looks much less likely now.

What?? Come on now, the economy is still on the right track. Inflation is way down and we’ve only had one quarter of slower economic growth. But isn’t that what we needed for our soft landing??

Anyway, perceptions about the economy are pretty much partisan these days.  If Trump was president with the same economy, every Republican would be going on and on about how great it is.

Inflation just went up amid a quarter of slow growth. Real wages are down quarter to quarter. There's still full employment however, but we'll see about the next jobs report. The two surveys have been diverging.

If you asked me a month ago I would've said that things were going pretty well but the mood has changed. A staglflationary environment has become much more likely. It's definitely not a particularly great economy, even if it's still fine overall.

I think we should wait until we get more economic data before making those kinds of claims.

[2016]

Perhaps those polls with Haley up 15% on Biden were accurate.

I am very much inclined to believe them!

[Progressive Pessimist]

There is no doubt that Biden is unpopular, but as we saw in 2022, that unpopularity may not be rooted in pure hatred (outside of Republicans). Perhaps it's more so indifference or dissatisfaction, two feelings thst could be overcome if Trump-who does inspire stronger feelings both ways-is a less appealing choice.

Disapproval as a metric doesn't really get into the nature of that disapproval.

[caf_elections]

Biden continues to get extraordinarily low approval ratings from Republicans -- just 2% [...]

What's funny is that the sample of these 2% of Republicans is extremely over represented on this forum.

[Farmlands]

Biden continues to get extraordinarily low approval ratings from Republicans -- just 2% [...]

What's funny is that the sample of these 2% of Republicans is extremely over represented on this forum.

There are definitely a few Republicans here who aren't voting for Trump in November (or 2020), but that's almost entirely about Trump, not due to approval of Biden's performance. He's got some praise about the TikTok ban recently, but that's mostly about it.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Biden continues to get extraordinarily low approval ratings from Republicans -- just 2% [...]

What's funny is that the sample of these 2% of Republicans is extremely over represented on this forum.

There are posters who are ironically blue avies but actually not republicans. Take those away and it’s probably less than 10%

[All Along The Watchtower]

The economy is not doing better than it was before COVID.

Agree, it's a shame the second-term Obama economy crashed in 2020, though it's been doing better since. But yes, not as good as 2016.