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« Reply #50 on: August 31, 2014, 09:57:22 PM »

I am fine with a vote, and probably offer an amendment later on.
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« Reply #51 on: September 01, 2014, 02:56:12 AM »

I call a 48-hour vote on Gass's amendment. Vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

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« Reply #52 on: September 01, 2014, 09:35:46 PM »

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« Reply #53 on: September 02, 2014, 10:55:01 AM »

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« Reply #54 on: September 02, 2014, 11:40:46 AM »

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« Reply #55 on: September 03, 2014, 07:50:43 AM »

Gass's amendment passes, with 2 Ayes and 1 Nay.
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« Reply #56 on: September 03, 2014, 07:54:55 AM »

This is my amendment.

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In my amendment, I introduced some points of the original bill (Points 2, 4, 5, 6, 7 on Part 2, Point 4 on Part 3, Part 4 and the Conclusion). What do you think?
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« Reply #57 on: September 03, 2014, 12:38:19 PM »

It looks good, however, I have few positively meant critiques.

1. Should we define "any major language"? in Part 1-2.
2. That should actually be 3 and not 2. You have two number 2s in Part 1.
3. In Part 2, numbers 3 and 5 are the same thing.
4. I think raising Part 3-1 from 5% to a higher number would make sense, but not a deal breaker.
5. Part 4 Section 3-1 Colour should be color and forbitdden should be forbidden.
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« Reply #58 on: September 04, 2014, 04:09:56 AM »

Gass, Hashemite... what do you think of my amendment?
I'm open to change my amendment with the GAworth considerations and the yours considerations.
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« Reply #59 on: September 05, 2014, 09:02:01 AM »

Don't like the removal of part 2 section 3.
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« Reply #60 on: September 05, 2014, 01:22:55 PM »

Don't like the removal of part 2 section 3.
I think that point 7 of Part 2 included point 3.
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« Reply #61 on: September 05, 2014, 01:49:41 PM »

Don't like the removal of part 2 section 3.
I think that point 7 of Part 2 included point 3.

That's how I read it.
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« Reply #62 on: September 05, 2014, 10:13:26 PM »

I do support the general idea of going back to the Windjammer version of this bill, but Part II, Sec. 7 can't be in there. I would have to veto it if that's in there because it's unconstitutional (it disfranchises legal immigrants from federal elections!)

As for Part IV, Sec. I, the federal government plans to give $1B in aid for combating housing inequalities to each region, so while I do support all of Part IV, we could reduce the spending here of the bill by a nice amount. The other parts of that section look good, just, I don't want to see all of the surplus money established in the last budget rapidly vanish.

GAworth's suggestions I also agree with, so I'll have a slightly altered amendment in a little bit.
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« Reply #63 on: September 05, 2014, 10:55:04 PM »

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Any spelling/grammatical errors have been fixed with some added detail on "major languages." The amendment also cuts spending by $2.25B from $4.51 billion to $2.26 billion. We do have a surplus, but IIRC, it's only about $15-16B, so we should save that extra money for the future if we ever really do need it.
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« Reply #64 on: September 05, 2014, 11:57:25 PM »

I am not against this. Although not recognizing our many Native Atlasian Languages that are unique to our region in Part 1-3 is disappointing.
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« Reply #65 on: September 06, 2014, 10:43:39 AM »

I'm Ok with the Adam's amendment. Only that I don't understand the removal of Point 7 in Part 2.
If the other representatives agree with the Adam's amendment, I can retire my amendment.
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« Reply #66 on: September 06, 2014, 10:47:35 AM »

The new Part 2-5 is ambiguous. Could lead to court challenges.
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« Reply #67 on: September 07, 2014, 04:38:38 PM »

I agree with GAworth and Part 1-3 is disappointing and too specific. I'm cool with the rest.
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« Reply #68 on: September 09, 2014, 12:18:11 AM »

I'm Ok with the Adam's amendment. Only that I don't understand the removal of Point 7 in Part 2.
If the other representatives agree with the Adam's amendment, I can retire my amendment.
I crossed that part out since I feared it would be unconstitutional. Part 2, Clause 7 kept legal immigrants from voting federal elections, which if I were to guess would be challenged by Attorney General Snowstalker otherwise.

As for Part 1, Clause 3, I'm more than willing to strike the detailed languages, but I made sure to include the "but is not limited to" phrase in there just to ensure there would be more languages covered under the clause. Part 2, Clause 5 could be a little bit more specific, and it is one of the initial clauses in the original bill, so maybe slightly alter it by saying "ethnic background or race" instead of nationality?
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« Reply #69 on: September 09, 2014, 04:51:10 AM »

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What do you think?

If this is friendly, I can present an amendment with Part 2 replaced with this.
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« Reply #70 on: September 09, 2014, 08:23:47 AM »

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What do you think?

If this is friendly, I can present an amendment with Part 2 replaced with this.

I'm cool with this, except I have a question with the bold clause. Shouldn't this say "Legal immigrants shall be allowed enroll their children in private or public schools."

Also I'm going to introduce an amendment after Cris' that allows for undocumented immigrants to send their children to school.
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« Reply #71 on: September 09, 2014, 09:21:12 AM »

I retire my amendment presented on September 3.

This is my new amendment, that is identical to the Adam's amendment, except the Part 2.

Adam, If you agree with my amendment, I think that you should retire your amendment in order to call a 48-hour vote on my amendment. If not, I will call a 48-hour vote on the Adam's amendment.

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« Reply #72 on: September 11, 2014, 06:54:26 AM »

I retire my amendment presented on September 3.

This is my new amendment, that is identical to the Adam's amendment, except the Part 2.

Adam, If you agree with my amendment, I think that you should retire your amendment in order to call a 48-hour vote on my amendment. If not, I will call a 48-hour vote on the Adam's amendment.

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« Reply #73 on: September 11, 2014, 09:47:16 AM »

I can support this, but I'll be introducing an amendment afterwards.
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« Reply #74 on: September 11, 2014, 10:46:59 AM »

I can support this, but I'll be introducing an amendment afterwards.

Same.
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