Mideast Assembly Thread

[Marokai Backbeat]

I've taken a look at this and I don't think it violates Section 1 ; Clause 1 of Article V in the Constitution, if it does you would also have to argue the Vice President violates that clause by holding the power of a tie-breaking vote in the Senate, it's basically the same principle here, you're not granting the Governor a seat in the assembly, merely giving them the power of the tie breaker.

I have some personal concerns about it, maybe a time limit of these abilities would be wise so the Governor doesn't simply wait for tie breakers all the time, but there is nothing in there that violates separation of powers or the dual office holding rule.

[Marokai Backbeat]

The governor shouldn't wield legislative power. The governor could choose not to fill the position. That would mean he could be the deciding factor in many votes. Really, it muddles the separation of powers.

Executive officers have limited legislative powers in very specific instances all the time. For instance, the Vice President can cast a tie breaking vote in legislation, and even function as emergency PPT upon resignations. Two legislative functions, one pretty big.

It may be irritating to have the executive poke it's head in legislative matters but it's hardly without precedent.

[Marokai Backbeat]

If I were a member of this assembly, I'd point out some past studies that actually measure the toxicity of the pollutants in cigarette smoke outside. Cigarette smoke, outside, has been measured as more harmful than car exhaust fumes. Shame I don't read this thread often.

[Marokai Backbeat]

I'd just like to say that the Pacific is glad to know we have a friend in the Mideast Region.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Our efforts at game reform are simple, targeted, and the epitome of non-radical.

We seek to consolidate our Constitution and simplify our statute. These are two efforts that will help to fix the game's foundations, make it easier for newbies to enter and participate in the game, and give us the ability to fight for bigger changes down the line. There are years of clutter that we must fix, and this rests on you.

I know that Officepark is skeptical of calling a new ConCon, and I can only offer words I said before:

Absolutely not.

You don't support constitutional consolidation and statute cleanup? We're talking simple stuff here, dude.

We already toyed around with a consitutional convention a few presidencies ago. It was a disaster.

I'm not convinced that this one will be any more successful, nor that it is in any way desirable to begin with (just like the other one).

Do you listen to anything we say? I'm genuinely curious, because judging from what you're saying it's like you're hearing "ConCon" for the first time.

There are several key differences:

The last ConCon had no specific focus. Pretty much all the proposals were wild redesigns of the game, many of which I hated anyway, but all the proposals were seeking to find a completely different structure to the game, this one will not. The purpose of this ConCon, if we get it, is specifically for constitutional consolidation and only minor modification.

The last ConCon had little to no actual progress in writing new things. A few articles were written for proposals here and there, but this time, we actually have a draft.

The last ConCon involved way too many people. Almost all votes required a quorum, which we could never meet, because we loaded up the ConCon with a ridiculous number of delegates making running the thing and getting anything through it a logistical nightmare. With a pinch of luck, a new ConCon will have less people involved while still maintaining maximum outside imput from citizens.

We are not abolishing regions. We are not changing the game in any radical way. We have not drafted and will not draft an unrecognizable constitution. We will not have ~30 people involved in an official capacity. This is an effort to work within the system, cleaning up the foundation of the game so it is simpler and easier to acclimate to, and setting the stage for future battles that can make the game more interesting without working on the patchwork system we have now.

I think the mere phrase Constitutional Convention has become toxic.

Ugh, it's so true. People hear "Constitutional Convention" and automatically think "vast logistical nightmare composed of ~30 people trying to redesign the entire game that gets nothing done." What people fail to realize is how simple a ConCon really is, and how the structure of a ConCon is decided by the Senate each individual time.

This can work, and it can better the game for us all. So let's all work together to get it done. I ask the Mideast Assembly: Please, pass this petition.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Well, make sure that you don't tell anyone what they are.

[Marokai Backbeat]

I'd like to be delegate.

Hash would be an excellent choice.

[Marokai Backbeat]

*cough*

[Marokai Backbeat]

Keep in mind, Assembly, that Afleitch also needs to be confirmed as Judge fairly soon. I'd say that, as well as choosing a ConCon delegate, needs to be taken care of as soon as possible. Then we can move on to other legislation.

No kidding.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Seeing my stuff responded to is awesome! Thanks MOPolitico!