What's more important: democracy, or liberalism/secularism?

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The second is hypothetically  better, but does not exist in the real world, outside the minds of the Thai middle-class and bone-headed Western observers of Turkey.


Also I'd pick the AKP over the military anyday. Hilarious how.many people cum over the Turkish military because they don't understand what Turks mean when they say 'secular'.

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The second is hypothetically  better, but does not exist in the real world, outside the minds of the Thai middle-class and bone-headed Western observers of Turkey.


Also I'd pick the AKP over the military anyday. Hilarious how.many people cum over the Turkish military because they don't understand what Turks mean when they say 'secular'.

Does it even exist in the minds of the Thai middle-class other than as a cover story for preserving privilege?

They've probably convinced themselves that supporting the Ywllows is the right and proper thing to do.

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I find none of  the list of democracy, secularism, and liberalism particularly important.   I am mostly focused on property rights which I guess maps best to liberalism, if only indirectly.  So I guess I have to vote for the latter reluctantly.   

The important question, of course, is did the Turkish coup attempt affect your portfolio?