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« Reply #325 on: December 01, 2012, 11:08:46 PM »
So has Bersani refused to join a coalition with Casini? I saw Renzi making it a point. Sort of ironic that the candidate favored by the Left might join with the UdC but, then again, we know why so it isn't actually surprising.
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« Reply #326 on: December 01, 2012, 11:14:02 PM »
Quote from: Keystone Phil on December 01, 2012, 11:08:46 PM
So has Bersani refused to join a coalition with Casini? I saw Renzi making it a point. Sort of ironic that the candidate favored by the Left might join with the UdC but, then again, we know why so it isn't actually surprising.

Yeah, this just shows how deluded those who make it a left/right fight are.

If we actually end up in a coalition with Casini, it'll be time to shoot myself.
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« Reply #327 on: December 02, 2012, 03:09:02 AM »
Voted for Renzi again,in the end...

I am expecting something like 55-45 Bersani.
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« Reply #328 on: December 02, 2012, 07:26:57 AM »
Vendola and Puppato voted Bersani. No surprises.

I want to see what was written in the 10% "justifications" for having missed the first round that they accepted.
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« Reply #329 on: December 02, 2012, 08:24:22 AM »
My prediction: Renzi to win 52-48.

When are the results coming in ?
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« Reply #330 on: December 02, 2012, 08:37:37 AM »
Quote from: Tender Branson on December 02, 2012, 08:24:22 AM
My prediction: Renzi to win 52-48.

When are the results coming in ?
Lol.

Polls close at 8PM,from 9PM the results will start coming in.
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« Reply #331 on: December 02, 2012, 09:38:31 AM »
Oh, Tender.

I'd love to see it be a ten point race. At least make it interesting to follow early on.
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« Reply #332 on: December 02, 2012, 02:28:34 PM »
Exit poll giving the win to Bersani with 61%.

Turnout down compared to last Sunday.

Tabacci voted for Bersani. Unsurprisingly, old DC votes for the most traditionalist candidate.
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« Reply #333 on: December 02, 2012, 02:39:07 PM »
3552 polling places out of 9219

Bersani 394,832 (61.11%)
Renzi 251,248 (38.89%)

Renzi ahead only in Tuscany so far.
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« Reply #334 on: December 02, 2012, 02:55:23 PM »
SHIIT
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« Reply #335 on: December 02, 2012, 03:04:27 PM »
"Berlusconi returns?" talk will be at a fever pitch all week...
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« Reply #336 on: December 02, 2012, 03:10:21 PM »
Seriously, what is it that makes Italian leftists so stupid?!?
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« Reply #337 on: December 02, 2012, 03:14:27 PM »
Quote from: Fillon, laisse pas béton ! on December 02, 2012, 03:10:21 PM
Seriously, what is it that makes Italian leftists so stupid?!?

Cheap wine & loose women... no wait, that's Berlusconi
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« Reply #338 on: December 02, 2012, 03:30:54 PM »
Renzi conceding.
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« Reply #339 on: December 02, 2012, 03:30:55 PM »
Renzi has apparently conceded. Bersani will be the next PM.
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« Reply #340 on: December 02, 2012, 03:40:44 PM »

Paris:  Bersani 438 votes; Renzi 246.
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« Reply #341 on: December 02, 2012, 03:45:18 PM »

Hey, they can screw it up... Wink
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« Reply #342 on: December 02, 2012, 03:53:15 PM »
True, but rather unlikely unless PD thoroughly self-nukes and Berlusconi runs a pitch-perfect campaign.
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« Reply #343 on: December 02, 2012, 04:57:33 PM »
Quote from: Fillon, laisse pas béton ! on December 02, 2012, 03:10:21 PM
Seriously, what is it that makes Italian leftists so stupid?!?
Enough.



61-39 Bersani in the end.
Wider margin than expected but there weren't really any chances for Renzi.

Great speech by Renzi,really good for the unity of the party.
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« Reply #344 on: December 02, 2012, 06:36:44 PM »
So, Bersani for PM!!!
I'd have probably voted for Renzi if I were Italian... But I like Bersani, too. He's a statesman, a serious politician, and a honest politician (something Italy really needs).
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« Reply #345 on: December 02, 2012, 06:42:22 PM »
So far, Renzi won Cuneo, Arezzo, Firenze, Lucca, Pistoia, Prato, Siena
Too close to call: Grosseto, Perugia, Fermo
Every other area to Bersani
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« Reply #346 on: December 02, 2012, 10:27:03 PM »
Quote from: Fillon, laisse pas béton ! on December 02, 2012, 03:10:21 PM
Seriously, what is it that makes Italian leftists so stupid?!?

No insult to you, Antonio, but if Italian leftists are stupid then so are (center-)leftists in most of Western Europe. Milliband, Steinbrück and Hollande don't exactly seem like the the best leaders. Guess we can now add Bersani to that list. It's pretty depressing, actually.

(Feel free to correct me about anything here if I'm being an ignorant foreigner)
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« Reply #347 on: December 03, 2012, 03:32:18 AM »
Quote from: RogueBeaver on December 02, 2012, 03:53:15 PM
True, but rather unlikely unless PD thoroughly self-nukes and Berlusconi runs a pitch-perfect campaign.

Luckily there's not only Berlusconi. We have to see if Bersani's coalition reach a certain percentage, expecially at the Senate.
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« Reply #348 on: December 03, 2012, 08:10:27 AM »
Renzi comes across as a vacuous windbag, so this is good news.
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« Reply #349 on: December 03, 2012, 08:12:34 AM »
Quote from: Tender Branson on December 02, 2012, 08:24:22 AM
My prediction: Renzi to win 52-48.

When are the results coming in ?

Hmm, I thought he could pull an upset.

Probably I didn't follow the primary enough ...
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