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« Reply #1375 on: September 22, 2013, 11:21:56 AM »

Still a chance for CDU/CSU government.  As I recall historically projections tends to get more friendly for CDU/CSU over time.
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« Reply #1376 on: September 22, 2013, 11:22:46 AM »

Either way, things have just gotten sehr interessant in the Bundesrepublik...
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« Reply #1377 on: September 22, 2013, 11:24:03 AM »

Was out shopping this morning. So glad I pressured my wife to get back in time to watch this election.  This is going to be long but fun.
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« Reply #1378 on: September 22, 2013, 11:25:50 AM »

The FDP being eliminated would be quite a delightful silver lining...
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« Reply #1379 on: September 22, 2013, 11:26:55 AM »

And a warning for the LibDems...
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« Reply #1380 on: September 22, 2013, 11:29:25 AM »

http://vis.uell.net/btw/13/atlas.html

Pretty nice 2009 results and some structural data (and once they come in, 2013 results) visualization.
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« Reply #1381 on: September 22, 2013, 11:29:26 AM »

If the AfD voters already lied in the pre-election polls (3-4%), then I guess they also lied to the exit pollsters in a way that puts them at 5.1%

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« Reply #1382 on: September 22, 2013, 11:30:43 AM »

Does Germany still have overhang seats?  If only the top four parties get in, it seems that could decide whether CDU/CSU has a majority (it could potentially pull them above or below 50%+1 seat perhaps).
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« Reply #1383 on: September 22, 2013, 11:31:36 AM »

Atlas of the Federal Election Authority:

http://www.bundeswahlleiter.de/de/bundestagswahlen/BTW_BUND_13/wahlatlas/start_wahlatlas.html
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« Reply #1384 on: September 22, 2013, 11:33:07 AM »

SPD, Greens and the Left should go for a hilariously unworkable bare majority coalition. It's not like they can fall much lower at this point.
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« Reply #1385 on: September 22, 2013, 11:33:24 AM »

If the AfD voters already lied in the pre-election polls (3-4%), then I guess they also lied to the exit pollsters
It's not that people lie (though they also do that), it's that no pollster is actually capable of contacting a representative sample of the population - except in an exit poll, where you CAN get a representative sample of those who actually vote fairly easily.
Though a new party that doesn't simply take over the extant base of another but instead represents a new specific section of the electorate can be hard to model, and there's certainly no reason to believe one thing or the other regarding the AfD so far.
Note that 18:00 projections are always rounded to half percent points... except at 5.0%, where pollsters do release their hunch on whether it's above or below that.
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« Reply #1386 on: September 22, 2013, 11:33:51 AM »

Does Germany still have overhang seats?  If only the top four parties get in, it seems that could decide whether CDU/CSU has a majority (it could potentially pull them above or below 50%+1 seat perhaps).
We now have complete equalization.
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« Reply #1387 on: September 22, 2013, 11:34:29 AM »

Is there any place to watch coverage in English?
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« Reply #1388 on: September 22, 2013, 11:37:46 AM »


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« Reply #1389 on: September 22, 2013, 11:38:23 AM »


Yes:

http://mediacenter.dw.de/english/live/
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« Reply #1390 on: September 22, 2013, 11:39:00 AM »

Here's hoping that FDP and AFD stay below 5%...doubt it though.
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« Reply #1391 on: September 22, 2013, 11:39:24 AM »

Does Germany still have overhang seats?  If only the top four parties get in, it seems that could decide whether CDU/CSU has a majority (it could potentially pull them above or below 50%+1 seat perhaps).
We now have complete equalization.
Is the total number of seats flexible though?  That could make a difference as to whether the CDU/CSU has exactly half the seats or one more/less (or 1/2 seat more or less than half in the case of an odd number of seats).

What is the seat allocation method among parties making the threshold?
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« Reply #1392 on: September 22, 2013, 11:39:29 AM »

Greens say they want talks with Merkel.
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« Reply #1393 on: September 22, 2013, 11:40:51 AM »

DW now have CDU on 299; Grand Coalition only possible government.
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« Reply #1394 on: September 22, 2013, 11:41:34 AM »

Here's hoping that FDP and AFD stay below 5%...doubt it though.

If this happens Merkel has a real chance of winning an absolute majority of seats. If I were you I would hope the AfD gets in. Wink
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« Reply #1395 on: September 22, 2013, 11:42:33 AM »

SPD now below 26%.
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« Reply #1396 on: September 22, 2013, 11:43:06 AM »


What is the seat allocation method among parties making the threshold?

Sainte-Laguë method
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« Reply #1397 on: September 22, 2013, 11:43:18 AM »

Censursula von der Leyen giving an interview in English on DW.
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« Reply #1398 on: September 22, 2013, 11:44:45 AM »

New ARD numbers have the CDU at 42.1, tied with redredgreen. AfD still at 4.9, FDP at 4.7.
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« Reply #1399 on: September 22, 2013, 11:45:22 AM »

Greens say they want talks with Merkel.
Who said that?
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