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« Reply #325 on: November 23, 2013, 03:22:24 PM »

Your Indiana argument is invalid because 1) I could have easily told you that Mourdock would blow the seat - I argued he would lose it for us throughout the primary campaign, and 2) Lugar would not have served out the full term had he been reelected. Not to take away from your overall argument, though.

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« Reply #326 on: November 23, 2013, 08:15:02 PM »

Your Indiana argument is invalid because 1) I could have easily told you that Mourdock would blow the seat - I argued he would lose it for us throughout the primary campaign, and 2) Lugar would not have served out the full term had he been reelected. Not to take away from your overall argument, though.

Mourdock wasn't a solid bet, but also not a "substantial" risk. Hell Pence wasn't even solid for Governor in the end. But there was no indication that he would be a substantial risk of the like of a Christine O'Donnell, which was my point. Mourdock had it in my opinion until the abortion gaffe, despite the polls, which I recall was tied.

I agree with you on that point about Lugar not serving out the full term but it must be considered that 1) many may not have known that was the case and 2) he may have ended up deciding to stay the full term.

The point in general, the one you acknowlege though is you really cannot tell. Lugar would have won as the nominee, but incumbents aren't always safe as people tire of certain politicians, they get corrupted or have the mouth problem like any other candidate new or old. Santorum's two terms, Allen's Gubernatorial service, Stevens numerous terms and Burns three terms didn't save them from scandal/foot in mouth.

I think the best thing in the article is opposition research on the likely candidates. With that you don't know who will forgive what like Noem's driving record versus on the other hand the Buck phone tape. My concern is that Rove is likely going to spend millions of dollars getting nominated a bunch of Nathan Deals and we are going to lose just as many seats as we have because of candidate incompetence as we have since 2006. Only difference is that it will be corrution instead of gaffes or it might even be gaffes still.
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« Reply #327 on: November 24, 2013, 05:31:47 AM »



It's funny, isn't it? Tongue
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« Reply #328 on: November 25, 2013, 11:26:28 AM »

Apparently there are Democrats other than Nunn running for Senate, too.
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« Reply #329 on: November 25, 2013, 03:37:51 PM »

I'm suprised everyone missed this, but Dalton mayor Cliff Pennington entered the GOP primary... He joins Schools Superintendent John Barge, and of course, Governor Deal.
http://www.gpb.org/news/2013/11/18/governor-nathan-deal-faces-new-challenge-from-right

Between Pennington and Barge, who has the better chance at defeating Deal?
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« Reply #330 on: November 25, 2013, 10:20:31 PM »

I'm suprised everyone missed this, but Dalton mayor Cliff Pennington entered the GOP primary... He joins Schools Superintendent John Barge, and of course, Governor Deal.
http://www.gpb.org/news/2013/11/18/governor-nathan-deal-faces-new-challenge-from-right

Between Pennington and Barge, who has the better chance at defeating Deal?
Pennington. The polls show Deal leading him 71-11 while Deal leads Barge 71-8. Also, John Barge already messed up his campaign, but more importantly his credibility because his campaign website spelled "Governor" wrong as "Govenor." As the School Superintendent, that obviously doesn't go well for him lol.

Neither of the two really stands a chance though because Governor Deal recently announced he's running for re-election which unfortunately also hurts Carter's chances.
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« Reply #331 on: November 26, 2013, 02:44:08 PM »

How generous of Kingston to give Broun an opening! Smiley

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« Reply #332 on: November 26, 2013, 03:25:05 PM »

How generous of Kingston to give Broun an opening! Smiley

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It's quite bizarre to see this. Of course Kingston was going to position himself as a "moderate" (no way he could out-compete Broun for the nutter vote; the only way to win is to beat Handel & Perdue and go to a runoff), but this seems like a losing issue for him. In addition to that, his campaign font/logo is ridiculous (and virtually unchanged from his past ten House runs):



Cooper font? Really?

I'm suprised everyone missed this, but Dalton mayor Cliff Pennington entered the GOP primary... He joins Schools Superintendent John Barge, and of course, Governor Deal.
http://www.gpb.org/news/2013/11/18/governor-nathan-deal-faces-new-challenge-from-right

Between Pennington and Barge, who has the better chance at defeating Deal?

Well, it's David Pennington, but he would have the better chance overall. Still, neither can win: an establishment Republican sits upon the bulk of the voters needed by either candidate. Pennington is the radical Tea Party mayor from my hometown, Barge is the actual moderate who disagrees with the Republicans wholeheartedly on education, and neither will be able to pull off enough voters to force a runoff.
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« Reply #333 on: November 27, 2013, 02:47:45 PM »

On the Georgia Governor's Mansion 2014 contest:
I've got Deal winning easily over Carter: 57-40.

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« Reply #334 on: December 04, 2013, 04:24:25 PM »

Well, I'll give Mike Collins, a Republican running in CD10, points for this ad.

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« Reply #335 on: December 04, 2013, 04:30:30 PM »

Well, I'll give Mike Collins, a Republican running in CD10, points for this ad.

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Great ad...good to know he is flexible!
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« Reply #336 on: December 12, 2013, 05:34:32 AM »

I don't suppose this is will be good PR for Deal:

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« Reply #337 on: December 12, 2013, 11:52:17 AM »

If Pennington could win the Primaries Grin
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« Reply #338 on: December 17, 2013, 02:20:14 PM »

Just got back from my grandmother's funeral, spent three days with my relatives down in the rural south of the state. So it's time for

BACON KING'S FAMILY POLITICAL TRACKER UPDATE

  • In the GOP Senate race, they like Kingston because they thought he was a good Congressman when they were in the 1st District. Mixed opinion on Broun. General consensus is that there are a lot of candidates and the election's still a ways away so they're keeping an open mind towards all of them.
  • Nobody really likes Nathan Deal but they don't really see him losing reelection. Even the savviest family politico (I'm talking regular attendee to the state GOP convention, who proudly displays a picture of himself with Newt Gingrich on the dining room wall) wasn't even aware Deal had a primary challenger.
  • There's a "wait and see" attitude towards Carter and Nunn, on whether they'll be "Georgia Democrats" who represent the working man, or "National Democrats" who serve the interests of "special interests"
  • They're more open towards Nunn because if she takes after her dad they know they'll like her, whereas if Carter is like his grandfather they still don't know whether he'll be like Governor Jimmy Carter (good, honest, common sense man), President Jimmy Carter (well intentioned but inept) or Former President Jimmy Carter (raging liberal socialist who loves the terrorists, god bless him for building those houses for poor people though).
  • When the news that the Federal Judge had ruled the NSA stuff unconstitutional, reaction varied from "the only problem with it, really, was that they didn't tell people they were doing it to start with," to staunch libertarian views on the topic.

Also I discovered I have a possible networking connection with the new DPG Chair DuBose Porter! My cousin and his son played soccer on the same team for several years. My uncle recounted conversations he had with Porter, where the two agreed that the state Democratic Party would be doing a lot better if they could win back the votes of "those scared white folks who are, y'know, afraid of the minorities taking over, getting too much power over them," so make of that what you will.
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« Reply #339 on: December 17, 2013, 03:20:43 PM »

Just got back from my grandmother's funeral, spent three days with my relatives down in the rural south of the state. So it's time for

BACON KING'S FAMILY POLITICAL TRACKER UPDATE

  • In the GOP Senate race, they like Kingston because they thought he was a good Congressman when they were in the 1st District. Mixed opinion on Broun. General consensus is that there are a lot of candidates and the election's still a ways away so they're keeping an open mind towards all of them.
  • Nobody really likes Nathan Deal but they don't really see him losing reelection. Even the savviest family politico (I'm talking regular attendee to the state GOP convention, who proudly displays a picture of himself with Newt Gingrich on the dining room wall) wasn't even aware Deal had a primary challenger.
  • There's a "wait and see" attitude towards Carter and Nunn, on whether they'll be "Georgia Democrats" who represent the working man, or "National Democrats" who serve the interests of "special interests"
  • They're more open towards Nunn because if she takes after her dad they know they'll like her, whereas if Carter is like his grandfather they still don't know whether he'll be like Governor Jimmy Carter (good, honest, common sense man), President Jimmy Carter (well intentioned but inept) or Former President Jimmy Carter (raging liberal socialist who loves the terrorists, god bless him for building those houses for poor people though).
  • When the news that the Federal Judge had ruled the NSA stuff unconstitutional, reaction varied from "the only problem with it, really, was that they didn't tell people they were doing it to start with," to staunch libertarian views on the topic.

Also I discovered I have a possible networking connection with the new DPG Chair DuBose Porter! My cousin and his son played soccer on the same team for several years. My uncle recounted conversations he had with Porter, where the two agreed that the state Democratic Party would be doing a lot better if they could win back the votes of "those scared white folks who are, y'know, afraid of the minorities taking over, getting too much power over them," so make of that what you will.

I'm sorry for your grandmother BK.

Well, Georgia will be interesting!
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« Reply #340 on: December 18, 2013, 05:12:01 PM »
« Edited: December 18, 2013, 05:16:43 PM by RogueBeaver »

Kingston channels his inner Gingrich. Ironic thing is that he's running for the seat once held by the program's author.
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« Reply #341 on: December 23, 2013, 03:11:36 PM »

Its rough being a Republican Congressional candidate in GA. Despite several open seats, Republicans are generally facing crowded fields and struggling to raise money. The article has a good overview of the open House seats.
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« Reply #342 on: December 23, 2013, 04:58:31 PM »

The fact that Deal isn't in jail yet is pretty surprising.
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« Reply #343 on: December 24, 2013, 08:18:50 AM »

The fact that Deal isn't in jail yet is pretty surprising.

It's pretty surprising he wasn't in jail in 2010, honestly. Recall he resigned to run for governor literally the day before the House Ethics Committee was supposed to have a hearing on his cash for clunkers personal profit making scheme that would have probably gotten him expelled.
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« Reply #344 on: January 03, 2014, 03:31:23 PM »

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« Reply #345 on: January 03, 2014, 03:50:25 PM »


Excellent news; Carter will need that money to define himself and not be defined by Deal.
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« Reply #346 on: January 04, 2014, 12:48:07 AM »


Interesting.
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« Reply #347 on: January 05, 2014, 09:25:58 AM »

Too bad Carter is going to get his butt kicked by Deal in November.

GA Dems will have to wait until 2018 to get the governorship back
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« Reply #348 on: January 05, 2014, 03:59:11 PM »

Too bad Carter is going to get his butt kicked by Deal in November.

GA Dems will have to wait until 2018 to get the governorship back

Dude, why do you even have a red avatar?
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« Reply #349 on: January 06, 2014, 07:08:14 AM »

Another good quarter for Nunn, as she raised $1.6 million.
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