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Christian/Catholic
 
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Islam
 
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Jewish
 
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Buddhist
 
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Hindu
 
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Shinto
 
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Sikhism
 
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Other
 
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Atheist
 
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« Reply #50 on: November 29, 2013, 09:02:19 PM »

Agnostic atheist
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« Reply #51 on: November 30, 2013, 08:32:31 AM »

I would've appreciated an Agnostic option, but I do definitely lean towards theism over atheism. I'm sort of with what is considered "Christian Agnosticism".
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« Reply #52 on: November 30, 2013, 08:57:44 AM »

I voted for atheist, but that's not really accurate.

I was raised as a Christian, an evangelical protestant whatever. One of the things that got me was how one of the only reasons I was such a strong believer was because I was raised that way. Were I born elsewhere, I'd passionately follow whatever else. All of the meaning began to melt away and it all felt so artificial. The strong sense of greater purpose and assurance and wisdom was reflected back at me in the lives of Muslims, Buddhists, Jews.. there was no greater understanding they were missing out on. So, I rejected it. But does that mean I don't believe in a God? I don't know, or frankly care. It doesn't affect anything.
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« Reply #53 on: November 30, 2013, 09:41:37 AM »

Atheist
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« Reply #54 on: November 30, 2013, 12:30:10 PM »


Word! Cheesy

Heh, I actually got tapped the other week to become a Deacon for iur congregation.
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« Reply #55 on: November 30, 2013, 01:32:59 PM »

Roman Catholic.. the only way to live
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« Reply #56 on: November 30, 2013, 06:23:26 PM »

I would've appreciated an Agnostic option, but I do definitely lean towards theism over atheism. I'm sort of with what is considered "Christian Agnosticism".

"Atheism" really just means "without theism."  Agnostics are essentially atheists.  That's not to say that I don't understand the purpose of separating "atheist" to mean "active disbelief in God."  But, lacking separate options, "atheist" is pretty much sufficient to cover agnosticism.
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« Reply #57 on: November 30, 2013, 06:28:58 PM »

I would've appreciated an Agnostic option, but I do definitely lean towards theism over atheism. I'm sort of with what is considered "Christian Agnosticism".

"Atheism" really just means "without theism."  Agnostics are essentially atheists.  That's not to say that I don't understand the purpose of separating "atheist" to mean "active disbelief in God."  But, lacking separate options, "atheist" is pretty much sufficient to cover agnosticism.
Atheism has pretty much become a religion unto itself.  Of course you might differentiate this as "humanism".... but the dogmatic urgency that atheists proclaim their beliefs loud and clear... inherently seems religious.

Agnostics like me simply don't know or care enough.  There may be a loving all father God or a mother Goddess or many gods or no gods or perhaps just super smart, powerful aliens... I don't know and I don't really care.

At the end of the day they pretty much just want your money and your devotion with various negative consequences for not following suit (whether that be eternal hellfire or a colossal waste of time).
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« Reply #58 on: November 30, 2013, 06:31:54 PM »

The best way to describe me is agnostic, although I ascribe to logical positivism when it comes to religion.
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« Reply #59 on: November 30, 2013, 06:40:54 PM »

I would've appreciated an Agnostic option, but I do definitely lean towards theism over atheism. I'm sort of with what is considered "Christian Agnosticism".

"Atheism" really just means "without theism."  Agnostics are essentially atheists.  That's not to say that I don't understand the purpose of separating "atheist" to mean "active disbelief in God."  But, lacking separate options, "atheist" is pretty much sufficient to cover agnosticism.
Atheism has pretty much become a religion unto itself.  Of course you might differentiate this as "humanism".... but the dogmatic urgency that atheists proclaim their beliefs loud and clear... inherently seems religious.

Agnostics like me simply don't know or care enough.  There may be a loving all father God or a mother Goddess or many gods or no gods or perhaps just super smart, powerful aliens... I don't know and I don't really care.

At the end of the day they pretty much just want your money and your devotion with various negative consequences for not following suit (whether that be eternal hellfire or a colossal waste of time).

I'm not sure what that has to do with my post, but cool?

My point was that "atheism" and "agnosticism" aren't mutually exclusive, because "atheism" has a broader definition than most people assume.  (Technically, what most people call "atheism" is really hard atheism.)  I know that some people have adopted "atheism" and "agnosticism" to represent hard and soft atheism, respectfully, but "atheism" can include agnosticism.

"Religion," as far as I know, requires a metaphysical claim of some sort.  Simply being dogmatic about ethical or epistemic issues doesn't make for a metaphysical claim.  Being dickish and dogmatic doesn't make atheism a religion; it just means that some atheists engage in unattractive behavior that is common with some religious people.
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« Reply #60 on: November 30, 2013, 06:47:12 PM »

I would've appreciated an Agnostic option, but I do definitely lean towards theism over atheism. I'm sort of with what is considered "Christian Agnosticism".

"Atheism" really just means "without theism."  Agnostics are essentially atheists.  That's not to say that I don't understand the purpose of separating "atheist" to mean "active disbelief in God."  But, lacking separate options, "atheist" is pretty much sufficient to cover agnosticism.
Atheism has pretty much become a religion unto itself.  Of course you might differentiate this as "humanism".... but the dogmatic urgency that atheists proclaim their beliefs loud and clear... inherently seems religious.

Agnostics like me simply don't know or care enough.  There may be a loving all father God or a mother Goddess or many gods or no gods or perhaps just super smart, powerful aliens... I don't know and I don't really care.

At the end of the day they pretty much just want your money and your devotion with various negative consequences for not following suit (whether that be eternal hellfire or a colossal waste of time).

I'm not sure what that has to do with my post, but cool?

My point was that "atheism" and "agnosticism" aren't mutually exclusive, because "atheism" has a broader definition than most people assume.  (Technically, what most people call "atheism" is really hard atheism.)  I know that some people have adopted "atheism" and "agnosticism" to represent hard and soft atheism, respectfully, but "atheism" can include agnosticism.

"Religion," as far as I know, requires a metaphysical claim of some sort.  Simply being dogmatic about ethical or epistemic issues doesn't make for a metaphysical claim.  Being dickish and dogmatic doesn't make atheism a religion; it just means that some atheists engage in unattractive behavior that is common with some religious people.
It's like sugar.  You can cut it out... but you will have to replace it with something.  Being dogmatic about ethical issues is by its very nature metaphysical when you start asking where these morals or ethics come from.
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« Reply #61 on: November 30, 2013, 06:55:58 PM »

None. Not religious or superstitious. Not spiritual either, really.

As to a supreme being, which I treat as wholly separate, I don't know if there is one or not, but I can't believe in one per se until there is proof.
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« Reply #62 on: November 30, 2013, 07:13:04 PM »

It's like sugar.  You can cut it out... but you will have to replace it with something. 

What's like sugar?  Moralizing?  Or ethics?

Being dogmatic about ethical issues is by its very nature metaphysical when you start asking where these morals or ethics come from.

Sorry, I meant to write supernatural, and not metaphysical.  You can make a metaphysical claim (a first principle claim) without claiming supernatural backing.  Religion involves supernatural claims, not any old first principle claim.  Besides, first principle claims don't have to be dogmatic.  I feel like you're forcing an equivalency here.
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« Reply #63 on: November 30, 2013, 11:52:45 PM »

Reform Jew.
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« Reply #64 on: November 30, 2013, 11:57:21 PM »

Catholic.
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« Reply #65 on: December 01, 2013, 03:17:09 AM »

Catholic.
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« Reply #66 on: December 01, 2013, 08:09:50 AM »

"Atheism" really just means "without theism."  Agnostics are essentially atheists.  That's not to say that I don't understand the purpose of separating "atheist" to mean "active disbelief in God."  But, lacking separate options, "atheist" is pretty much sufficient to cover agnosticism.

I don't entirely disagree with you. I think agnosticism includes both theistic and atheistic options. Theism and atheism can both be a subset of the larger agnostic view. My point was that I lean more towards agnostic theism over agnostic atheism. I'm not at all certain over the existence of a higher power/deity, but I do believe it is more likely that there is at least one as opposed to none.

I do think that if Christian/Catholic is an option, the poll should've had an Agnostic option somewhere (even if it was "Atheism/Agnosticism").
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« Reply #67 on: December 01, 2013, 08:29:57 AM »

I don't entirely disagree with you. I think agnosticism includes both theistic and atheistic options.

Moreover, atheism includes both religious and irreligious options.  There are the traditional religious atheists, who practice ancestor worship or animism and have been around as long as the polytheists and longer than the monotheists, and then there are the latter-day atheists who want to stamp out all religion, and whose brand of atheism is worn like a badge of honor and is proselytizing and evangelical and exceedingly annoying.  If I thought they'd show up at my door the way the Mormons and Jehovah's Witness do, with pamphlets and such, I think I'd nail it shut. 
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« Reply #68 on: December 01, 2013, 05:29:24 PM »


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Heh, I actually got tapped the other week to become a Deacon for iur congregation.

Off-topic (slightly): but there is such a lack of Protestants here.
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« Reply #69 on: December 01, 2013, 06:36:38 PM »
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Word! Cheesy

Heh, I actually got tapped the other week to become a Deacon for iur congregation.

Off-topic (slightly): but there is such a lack of Protestants here.

Protestants tend to migrate either towards fundamentalism or atheism/universalism/new ageism. We have plenty of some variant of the latter around here. Tongue
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« Reply #70 on: December 01, 2013, 07:06:19 PM »

Other. And just "other".


Despite being primarily raised in the Lutheran and Presbyterian churches, I have also had lots of exposure to Hinduism and Unitarian Universalism. There's just so much about Abrahamic religions I can't accept.

Just as I swing back and forth between Repub and Indie with my party ID, I find it hard to identify as Christian, but there is no other religion I can identify with. Buddhism would be the closest non-Christian philosophy.
As a gay, you are not allowed to be a Republican.  You are allowed to be independent of course... but don't let your mancrush on Mitt Romney cloud your judgment!  At the end of the day I feel like you'll just be disappointed as a semi-brown gay who wants to be accepted by people who just aren't very accepting.

Obviously you can be whatever you want... just don't go over to the dark side! Smiley
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« Reply #71 on: December 01, 2013, 07:18:56 PM »


Word! Cheesy

Heh, I actually got tapped the other week to become a Deacon for iur congregation.

Off-topic (slightly): but there is such a lack of Protestants here.

Protestants tend to migrate either towards fundamentalism or atheism/universalism/new ageism. We have plenty of some variant of the latter around here. Tongue

And the high church ones mostly quit or go swimming in the Tiber (Scott & Nate excepted)
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« Reply #72 on: December 01, 2013, 08:50:19 PM »

I was baptized and confirmed in the Greek Orthodox Church, which apparently means I can visit Mount Athos if I want to (restricted to Orthodox males over 18).

But my family mainly attended a Community of Christ (RLDS) church when I was little and then a United Methodist church until I was about 12 or 13.
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« Reply #73 on: December 01, 2013, 08:54:41 PM »

I was baptized and confirmed in the Greek Orthodox Church, which apparently means I can visit Mount Athos if I want to (restricted to Orthodox males over 18).

Are cell phones allowed there? If so it'd be a great place to play Ingress.
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« Reply #74 on: December 01, 2013, 09:20:52 PM »

I was baptized and confirmed in the Greek Orthodox Church, which apparently means I can visit Mount Athos if I want to (restricted to Orthodox males over 18).

Are cell phones allowed there? If so it'd be a great place to play Ingress.

No clue. It's basically a big monastery and I think that sort of thing is generally frowned upon (both the cell phones and the playing of Ingress). Can't be stealing portals or whatever it is you do while people are trying to pray or meditate or whatever.
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