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Question: Should the Democratic Party disavow identity politics?
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« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2016, 02:45:30 PM »

Not only would it be healthier for the Dems to abandon the practice, but the nation's health would rise substantially too. Identity politics destroys American identity and turns everyone into tribal clans too paranoid of the other clans.
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« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2016, 02:59:42 PM »

the most hilarious thing to me is that REPUBLICANS think they don't use identity politics all the time.
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« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2016, 03:04:03 PM »

the most hilarious thing to me is that REPUBLICANS think they don't use identity politics all the time.

Of course we don't use it.
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« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2016, 03:05:34 PM »

the most hilarious thing to me is that REPUBLICANS think they don't use identity politics all the time.

Of course we don't use it.


lol, keep telling yourself that hon
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« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2016, 03:27:57 PM »

the hands ad from Jesse Helms

George W. Bush running against gay marriage

Trump's announcement speech at Trump tower calling immigrants rapists

Willie Horton

ect. ect.

i rest my case
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« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2016, 04:07:09 PM »

the most hilarious thing to me is that REPUBLICANS think they don't use identity politics all the time.

I wouldn't say most Blue avatars would say that (maybe I'm wrong), but the GOP is 1) better at it and 2) seems to do it in a way that makes the folks they're appealing to feel better about THEMSELVES while trashing others rather than convince their audience JUST how bad the other folks are.
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« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2016, 04:09:19 PM »

the hands ad from Jesse Helms

George W. Bush running against gay marriage

Trump's announcement speech at Trump tower calling immigrants rapists

Willie Horton

ect. ect.

i rest my case

The entire 2004 election in my area was the pubs empasizing over and over again that Kerry was an elitist catholic yankee ivy leaguer from Massachusetts that does not care about rill merikans. Both sides definitely do it.
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« Reply #32 on: November 17, 2016, 05:19:38 PM »

Yes, the GOP is beating them at that game now. Working-Class White has transformed into the single largest political identity of them all.
You mean the Southern Strategy?

It has expanded to rural white voters across this country, not just the South.

Yeah, not like Republicans ever won rural Whites in the North before now or the Southern Strategy!!

That's beyond the point, what's pertinent is that rural whites have coalesced into a national political group with consistent political identity traits that carry across regional lines, and they are overwhelmingly voting for Republicans, hence why Democrats need to shift strategy since Republicans now have the single largest identity group under their possession.
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« Reply #33 on: November 18, 2016, 10:47:03 AM »

Yes, the GOP is beating them at that game now. Working-Class White has transformed into the single largest political identity of them all.
You mean the Southern Strategy?

It has expanded to rural white voters across this country, not just the South.

Yeah, not like Republicans ever won rural Whites in the North before now or the Southern Strategy!!

That's beyond the point, what's pertinent is that rural whites have coalesced into a national political group with consistent political identity traits that carry across regional lines, and they are overwhelmingly voting for Republicans, hence why Democrats need to shift strategy since Republicans now have the single largest identity group under their possession.

Okay, that's fair.  I just hate the misconception that Republicans didn't used to have a TON of rural strength in the North, regardless of where that was.  There was NEVER a time when the Republican base was urban areas.  Period.
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« Reply #34 on: November 18, 2016, 10:21:53 PM »
« Edited: November 18, 2016, 10:28:14 PM by Spicy Purrito( (((☭ )))-MA) »

Didn't Obama come within 3 in Montana and 8-9 in the Dakotas when he said rurals cling to guns and religion? And now Democrats lost because of the hinterlands in the states that contain Miami, Philidelphia, and Detroit?

Democrats need to strengthen the base without causing mobilization on the other side. If anything, they need dog whistles that do exactly that. The problem with Republicans during Obama is that they didn't know how against him. Now democrats don't know how to squeak a fart past Him.
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« Reply #35 on: November 23, 2016, 02:13:23 AM »

Other. Their tent needs to be bigger and more inclusive of both progressives and Blue Dog Democrats.
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