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« on: January 11, 2015, 07:27:28 PM »

this is from 2 years ago, after the mag was in the news for publishing cartoon depictions of Mohammed and other Muslims:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x-FD6leCKU&feature=youtu.be

it's hard to hear him... his point is that Hedbo is being congratulated as a beacon for "free speech" as they published caricatures of Muslims, but if they had published a caricature of a Jew they'd be prosecuted under the anti-anti-Semitism laws. rendering French "self-congratulation" over their defense of "free speech" "fakery" and "fraud".
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2015, 07:40:36 PM »

Comparing all Jews to Mohammed is a ridiculous comparison. If They drew Moses, no one would care. If they drew Moses getting sexed in the butt, people would complain but nowhere near what Muslims do.

Hedbo drew caricatures.   caricatures are by definition drawn to exaggerate (usually) physical characteristics.  

publishing a drawing of a Jew w/ a scraggly beard, hook nose, eagerly clutching bag of gold would likely be prosecuted as the equivalent of hate speech in France and much of Europe.
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2015, 10:46:13 PM »

Chomsky is a self hating Jew who will blame nearly everything on the West.

"There have long been efforts to identify anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism in an effort to exploit anti-racist sentiment for political ends; "one of the chief tasks of any dialogue with the Gentile world is to prove that the distinction between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism is not a distinction at all," Israeli diplomat Abba Eban argued, in a typical expression of this intellectually and morally disreputable position (Eban, Congress Bi-Weekly, March 30, 1973).

But that no longer suffices. It is now necessary to identify criticism of Israeli policies as anti-Semitism -- or in the case of Jews, as "self-hatred," so that all possible cases are covered."


(Noam Chomsky, Necessary Illusions, 1989)
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2015, 10:52:39 PM »

a few tidbits on the French tradition of free speech, currently under vicious attack from radial Islamists:


Charlie Hedbo fired Maurice Siné for anti-semitism.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/aug/03/france.pressandpublishing


Dieudonné M'bala M'bala has been prohibited from making public performances in France due to his alleged anti-semitism.
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2015, 11:28:34 PM »


again, the distinction of the state taking action vs private individuals.  Jews have the pull to use the state to censor what they don't like -- though reportedly the JDL did write Sine a death threat.
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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2015, 10:31:43 PM »

I wonder why some people needs to resort to, let's say strong words, when the notorious "patron saint of the far-left" exercises his right to dissent on a wide range of issues.

Does Chomsky still think that supporting the Khmer Rouge was the right thing to do?

Did he really wrote something in that way? If yes, that deserves a strong reply. As everybody knows, he has written tons of articles and I don't have a clue on his current thoughts on the subject.

no.  it's ing nonsense, debunked within 60 seconds by any literate teenager.  it's akin to when people called him a Holocaust denier because he wrote a preface to a book by  Robert Faurisson.



he's hated because he does not assume that US/Israeli violence is by nature any more legitimate or virtuous than any other form of violence.
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