Ohio State Attack

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

With a name like "Abdul Razak Artan" there is no need to release a motive. People will have already assigned a motive of "radical islamic terrorism," regardless of what any official says.

If you were a betting man, what motive would you assign for this guy?

Social isolation, plus fear and anger at seeing the nation he's living in elect a stupid Nazi?

So he's the victim right? Those people deserved to be stabbed right? Is that what you're saying here?

[RINO Tom]

With a name like "Abdul Razak Artan" there is no need to release a motive. People will have already assigned a motive of "radical islamic terrorism," regardless of what any official says.

If you were a betting man, what motive would you assign for this guy?

Social isolation, plus fear and anger at seeing the nation he's living in elect a stupid Nazi?

I know it's easy to be an anonymous dickhead on the Internet, but holy sh**t, are you actually making an excuse for this POS because you're mad about an election?  Jeez.

Anyway, glad you're okay, Vosem.  Praying for the victims that they make a full recovery.  These types of stories suck.

[DavidB.]

With a name like "Abdul Razak Artan" there is no need to release a motive. People will have already assigned a motive of "radical islamic terrorism," regardless of what any official says.

If you were a betting man, what motive would you assign for this guy?

Social isolation, plus fear and anger at seeing the nation he's living in elect a stupid Nazi?

LOL, this type of mindboggling political correctness is part of the reason why Trump won.

[swf541]

With a name like "Abdul Razak Artan" there is no need to release a motive. People will have already assigned a motive of "radical islamic terrorism," regardless of what any official says.

If you were a betting man, what motive would you assign for this guy?

Social isolation, plus fear and anger at seeing the nation he's living in elect a stupid Nazi?

LOL, this type of mindboggling political correctness is part of the reason why Trump won.

[kyc0705]

With a name like "Abdul Razak Artan" there is no need to release a motive. People will have already assigned a motive of "radical islamic terrorism," regardless of what any official says.

If you were a betting man, what motive would you assign for this guy?

Social isolation, plus fear and anger at seeing the nation he's living in elect a stupid Nazi?

LOL, this type of mindboggling political correctness is part of the reason why Trump won.

Couldn't have said it better myself. If the left wants to start showing themselves as serious opponents to the rise of right-wing populism, they need to really pick their battles. I think the whole "Political correctness gone mad" thing is wildly overblown, but I understand why many feel that some social liberals are afraid to call a spade what it is.

[Confused Democrat]

With a name like "Abdul Razak Artan" there is no need to release a motive. People will have already assigned a motive of "radical islamic terrorism," regardless of what any official says.

If you were a betting man, what motive would you assign for this guy?

Radical jihadist terrorism, but I don't like the idea of assigning motives to criminals before there is evidence to back it up.

[White Trash]

With a name like "Abdul Razak Artan" there is no need to release a motive. People will have already assigned a motive of "radical islamic terrorism," regardless of what any official says.

If you were a betting man, what motive would you assign for this guy?

Social isolation, plus fear and anger at seeing the nation he's living in elect a stupid Nazi?

The country elects someone who is rather unsavory in your opinion, so you attack a group of innocent folks with an automobile and a machete?

k.

[Comrade Funk]

With a name like "Abdul Razak Artan" there is no need to release a motive. People will have already assigned a motive of "radical islamic terrorism," regardless of what any official says.

If you were a betting man, what motive would you assign for this guy?

Social isolation, plus fear and anger at seeing the nation he's living in elect a stupid Nazi?

LOL, this type of mindboggling political correctness is part of the reason why Trump won.

[Orthogonian Society Treasurer]

With a name like "Abdul Razak Artan" there is no need to release a motive. People will have already assigned a motive of "radical islamic terrorism," regardless of what any official says.

If you were a betting man, what motive would you assign for this guy?

Social isolation, plus fear and anger at seeing the nation he's living in elect a stupid Nazi?

[Green Line]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/28/us/ohio-state-university-active-shooter/index.html

.......

There's something going on, and it's not good!

[Figueira]

Am I the only one who didn't interpret Spicy Purrito's post as a "justification" for the attack?

[Mr. Reactionary]

Am I the only one who didn't interpret Spicy Purrito's post as a "justification" for the attack?

I dont think anyone read it as attempting to justify the attack. It just reads as clueless that someone thinks this guy was otherwise normal until trump gets elected and then all of a sudden that is the trauma that pushes him over the edge. I definitely agree with waiting for more info on the motive whether it be islam or trump.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Am I the only one who didn't interpret Spicy Purrito's post as a "justification" for the attack?

If you're going to excuse the attack or somehow equate the attackers hurt feelings to this response, that to me basically sounds like a justification.

[dead0man]

The gun control nuts are suffering with blueballs today.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

Am I the only one who didn't interpret Spicy Purrito's post as a "justification" for the attack?

I dont think anyone read it as attempting to justify the attack. It just reads as clueless that someone thinks this guy was otherwise normal until trump gets elected and then all of a sudden that is the trauma that pushes him over the edge. I definitely agree with waiting for more info on the motive whether it be islam or trump.

I suspect it was someone hurting, someone who felt alienated and alone, someone who needed help but didn't recieve it, who was pushed over the edge by trump. It's important to remember that many members of ethnic minorities were really freaked out that someone who's primary election strategy was to attack those who where different is now president.

[DavidB.]

Am I the only one who didn't interpret Spicy Purrito's post as a "justification" for the attack?

I dont think anyone read it as attempting to justify the attack. It just reads as clueless that someone thinks this guy was otherwise normal until trump gets elected and then all of a sudden that is the trauma that pushes him over the edge. I definitely agree with waiting for more info on the motive whether it be islam or trump.

I suspect it was someone hurting, someone who felt alienated and alone, someone who needed help but didn't recieve it, who was pushed over the edge by trump. It's important to remember that many members of ethnic minorities were really freaked out that someone who's primary election strategy was to attack those who where different is now president.

Uh... I am an ethnic minority, and so are my American Jewish friends, many of whom weren't exactly pleased when Trump was elected... and they may feel bad, but they don't go around on campus stabbing people or driving cars into people. It's bizarre how some folks on the left think people doing crazy things because they are "pushed over the edge by Trump" is in any way an excuse or a justification. You cannot blame Trump or anyone else for this. You can only blame the guy who did it. There is still something like people's own responsibility in this world. People have agency. People have a choice. This guy made the wrong one. Can't blame Trump or anyone else for that.

And it's pretty insulting to assume ethnic minorities somehow can't be expected to not attack people just because Trump was elected.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

Am I the only one who didn't interpret Spicy Purrito's post as a "justification" for the attack?

I dont think anyone read it as attempting to justify the attack. It just reads as clueless that someone thinks this guy was otherwise normal until trump gets elected and then all of a sudden that is the trauma that pushes him over the edge. I definitely agree with waiting for more info on the motive whether it be islam or trump.

I suspect it was someone hurting, someone who felt alienated and alone, someone who needed help but didn't recieve it, who was pushed over the edge by trump. It's important to remember that many members of ethnic minorities were really freaked out that someone who's primary election strategy was to attack those who where different is now president.

Uh... I am an ethnic minority, and so are my American Jewish friends, many of whom weren't exactly pleased when Trump was elected... and they may feel bad, but they don't go around on campus stabbing people or driving cars into people. It's bizarre how some folks on the left think people doing crazy things because they are "pushed over the edge by Trump" is in any way an excuse or a justification. You cannot blame Trump or anyone else for this. You can only blame the guy who did it. There is still something like people's own responsibility in this world. People have agency. People have a choice. This guy made the wrong one. Can't blame Trump or anyone else for that.

And it's pretty insulting to assume ethnic minorities somehow can't be expected to not attack people just because Trump was elected.

My point was that trump was the spark that caused the keg to blow up, metaphorically speaking. We (or at least I) are not arguing that this is all trump's fault. Something else likely would have triggered this if trump had lost. trump was just the final straw. This is someone who was hurting badly enough to turn to violence. I don't assume that members of ethnic minorities are doomed to violence just because of trump. He pushed someone who was already falling apart over the edge, with tragic results.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

So he's the victim right? Those people deserved to be stabbed right? Is that what you're saying here?

I know it's easy to be an anonymous dickhead on the Internet, but holy sh**t, are you actually making an excuse for this POS because you're mad about an election?  Jeez.

The country elects someone who is rather unsavory in your opinion, so you attack a group of innocent folks with an automobile and a machete?

President-elect Pussygrabber has promised torture and the murder of women and children. When his supporters whine about someone losing it and attacking their fellow human beings like this guy did, what they're REALLY complaining about is that they want to be the ones doing the attacking (vicariously or otherwise) and they don't think it's fair that they might be at risk themselves. They're already guilty of the exact same crime - it's just that instead of car, knife, suicide vest or gun, they decided to act out on their insanity by voting for the promise of fascism, ethnic cleansing, war crimes, and torture.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Am I the only one who didn't interpret Spicy Purrito's post as a "justification" for the attack?

I dont think anyone read it as attempting to justify the attack. It just reads as clueless that someone thinks this guy was otherwise normal until trump gets elected and then all of a sudden that is the trauma that pushes him over the edge. I definitely agree with waiting for more info on the motive whether it be islam or trump.

I suspect it was someone hurting, someone who felt alienated and alone, someone who needed help but didn't recieve it, who was pushed over the edge by trump. It's important to remember that many members of ethnic minorities were really freaked out that someone who's primary election strategy was to attack those who where different is now president.

Uh... I am an ethnic minority, and so are my American Jewish friends, many of whom weren't exactly pleased when Trump was elected... and they may feel bad, but they don't go around on campus stabbing people or driving cars into people. It's bizarre how some folks on the left think people doing crazy things because they are "pushed over the edge by Trump" is in any way an excuse or a justification. You cannot blame Trump or anyone else for this. You can only blame the guy who did it. There is still something like people's own responsibility in this world. People have agency. People have a choice. This guy made the wrong one. Can't blame Trump or anyone else for that.

And it's pretty insulting to assume ethnic minorities somehow can't be expected to not attack people just because Trump was elected.

My point was that trump was the spark that caused the keg to blow up, metaphorically speaking. We (or at least I) are not arguing that this is all trump's fault. Something else likely would have triggered this if trump had lost. trump was just the final straw. This is someone who was hurting badly enough to turn to violence. I don't assume that members of ethnic minorities are doomed to violence just because of trump. He pushed someone who was already falling apart over the edge, with tragic results.

Most of this called hysteria and projection in the psychological community, I believe.

And yet you still can't directly blame the attacker (an Islamic fundie-2016 has made strange bedfellows, as Simfan recently noted) for his actions.

[Enduro]

I'm glad no one is dead, as far as I know.

[dead0man]

I'm glad no one is dead, as far as I know.

the bad guy is dead, thanks to a good guy with a gun

[Devout Centrist]

Suspect dead, people recover, life goes on.

Ultimately, this won't even merit a footnote in history. Another political Rorschach test for the masses.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

Am I the only one who didn't interpret Spicy Purrito's post as a "justification" for the attack?

I dont think anyone read it as attempting to justify the attack. It just reads as clueless that someone thinks this guy was otherwise normal until trump gets elected and then all of a sudden that is the trauma that pushes him over the edge. I definitely agree with waiting for more info on the motive whether it be islam or trump.

I suspect it was someone hurting, someone who felt alienated and alone, someone who needed help but didn't recieve it, who was pushed over the edge by trump. It's important to remember that many members of ethnic minorities were really freaked out that someone who's primary election strategy was to attack those who where different is now president.

Uh... I am an ethnic minority, and so are my American Jewish friends, many of whom weren't exactly pleased when Trump was elected... and they may feel bad, but they don't go around on campus stabbing people or driving cars into people. It's bizarre how some folks on the left think people doing crazy things because they are "pushed over the edge by Trump" is in any way an excuse or a justification. You cannot blame Trump or anyone else for this. You can only blame the guy who did it. There is still something like people's own responsibility in this world. People have agency. People have a choice. This guy made the wrong one. Can't blame Trump or anyone else for that.

And it's pretty insulting to assume ethnic minorities somehow can't be expected to not attack people just because Trump was elected.

My point was that trump was the spark that caused the keg to blow up, metaphorically speaking. We (or at least I) are not arguing that this is all trump's fault. Something else likely would have triggered this if trump had lost. trump was just the final straw. This is someone who was hurting badly enough to turn to violence. I don't assume that members of ethnic minorities are doomed to violence just because of trump. He pushed someone who was already falling apart over the edge, with tragic results.

Most of this called hysteria and projection in the psychological community, I believe.

And yet you still can't directly blame the attacker (an Islamic fundie-2016 has made strange bedfellows, as Simfan recently noted) for his actions.

Is there even evidence that he was a fundimentalist?

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Am I the only one who didn't interpret Spicy Purrito's post as a "justification" for the attack?

I dont think anyone read it as attempting to justify the attack. It just reads as clueless that someone thinks this guy was otherwise normal until trump gets elected and then all of a sudden that is the trauma that pushes him over the edge. I definitely agree with waiting for more info on the motive whether it be islam or trump.

I suspect it was someone hurting, someone who felt alienated and alone, someone who needed help but didn't recieve it, who was pushed over the edge by trump. It's important to remember that many members of ethnic minorities were really freaked out that someone who's primary election strategy was to attack those who where different is now president.

Uh... I am an ethnic minority, and so are my American Jewish friends, many of whom weren't exactly pleased when Trump was elected... and they may feel bad, but they don't go around on campus stabbing people or driving cars into people. It's bizarre how some folks on the left think people doing crazy things because they are "pushed over the edge by Trump" is in any way an excuse or a justification. You cannot blame Trump or anyone else for this. You can only blame the guy who did it. There is still something like people's own responsibility in this world. People have agency. People have a choice. This guy made the wrong one. Can't blame Trump or anyone else for that.

And it's pretty insulting to assume ethnic minorities somehow can't be expected to not attack people just because Trump was elected.

My point was that trump was the spark that caused the keg to blow up, metaphorically speaking. We (or at least I) are not arguing that this is all trump's fault. Something else likely would have triggered this if trump had lost. trump was just the final straw. This is someone who was hurting badly enough to turn to violence. I don't assume that members of ethnic minorities are doomed to violence just because of trump. He pushed someone who was already falling apart over the edge, with tragic results.

Most of this called hysteria and projection in the psychological community, I believe.

And yet you still can't directly blame the attacker (an Islamic fundie-2016 has made strange bedfellows, as Simfan recently noted) for his actions.

Is there even evidence that he was a fundimentalist?

Darker skin and a funny name. Enough to make him a terrorist mastermind to the permanent terrified cultists of President-elect Pussygrabber.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

LOL@Tim Kaine