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[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Not really. It's just that if you think the Sanders campaign is mainly driven by racism against Hillary Clinton, then you're dead wrong. For one thing, actual racists would tend to hate Sanders more than Clinton.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_Democratic_primary,_2016

They didn't vote for Sanders. They voted against Hillary

That's literally my entire point.

That hardly means "Sanders campaign is mainly driven by racism".

[BundouYMB]

Not really. It's just that if you think the Sanders campaign is mainly driven by racism against Hillary Clinton, then you're dead wrong. For one thing, actual racists would tend to hate Sanders more than Clinton.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_Democratic_primary,_2016

They didn't vote for Sanders. They voted against Hillary

That's literally my entire point.

That hardly means "Sanders campaign is mainly driven by racism".

I agree it doesn't prove that. It does prove, however, that "actual racists would tend to hate Sanders more than Clinton" is not a simple truth -- there are clearly plenty who hate Clinton more. And that's all I was pointing out here.

[Clark Kent]

Why would actual racists vote for the Jew over the WASP?

[This account no longer in use.]

Not really. It's just that if you think the Sanders campaign is mainly driven by racism against Hillary Clinton, then you're dead wrong. For one thing, actual racists would tend to hate Sanders more than Clinton.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_Democratic_primary,_2016

But clearly this is no way a complex subject and no racist has ever voted for Sanders in order to stick it to Clinton.

Did you just seriously use the "All Oklahomans are racist" stereotype to defend your ridiculous statements?

[IceSpear]

Why in god's name would racists hate Bernie more than Hillary? I'm pretty sure they'd hate the person who served under the first black president and is winning mainly based off heavy support from minorities more.

[Kingpoleon]

Your stereotypical racist obviously supports the Jew demanding more welfare, supporting Black Lives Matter, and calling out Republicans for cutting services and taxes.

[IceSpear]

Your stereotypical racist obviously supports the Jew demanding more welfare, supporting Black Lives Matter, and calling out Republicans for cutting services and taxes.

Uh, Hillary does all those things as well (besides being a Jew), on top of being given power by people who they don't even think should be allowed to vote.

And nobody's saying racists LIKE Sanders, it's saying who they hate more.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

Your stereotypical racist obviously supports the Jew demanding more welfare, supporting Black Lives Matter, and calling out Republicans for cutting services and taxes.

Uh, Hillary does all those things as well (besides being a Jew), on top of being given power by people who they don't even think should be allowed to vote.

And nobody's saying racists LIKE Sanders, it's saying who they hate more.

are you in all seriousness claiming clinton supports black lives matter?

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Those token racists that voted in the Democratic primaries will back a Republican (or some fuitcake far right third party candidate) in November anyway.  They would never really support a Jewish socialist nor a woman that served in the Black President's cabinet.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Those token racists that voted in the Democratic primaries will back a Republican (or some fuitcake far right third party candidate) in November anyway.  They would never really support a Jewish socialist nor a woman that served in the Black President's cabinet.

The point is that Sanders won Clinton '08 areas and Clinton won Obama '08 areas in Oklahoma this year. It advances a thesis that alienated, white conservadems support Sanders over Clinton. Maybe it's not that widespread of a phenomenon, but it is interesting to contemplate. I know a number of conservative males who prefer Sanders over Hillary for obvious reasons, but those are also guys that wouldn't have voted Democratic anyway. Nevertheless, for a low information voter, especially male, who sees Clinton as associated with the Obama administration, voting against her and for someone that they hear wants to stick it to the big banks isn't an entirely implausible phenomenon. Recall that in 2008 it was Obama who was coming for your guns and your religion, so they said; this year, it's Hillary.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Those token racists that voted in the Democratic primaries will back a Republican (or some fuitcake far right third party candidate) in November anyway.  They would never really support a Jewish socialist nor a woman that served in the Black President's cabinet.

The point is that Sanders won Clinton '08 areas and Clinton won Obama '08 areas in Oklahoma this year. It advances a thesis that alienated, white conservadems support Sanders over Clinton. Maybe it's not that widespread of a phenomenon, but it is interesting to contemplate. I know a number of conservative males who prefer Sanders over Hillary for obvious reasons, but those are also guys that wouldn't have voted Democratic anyway. Nevertheless, for a low information voter, especially male, who sees Clinton as associated with the Obama administration, voting against her and for someone that they hear wants to stick it to the big banks isn't an entirely implausible phenomenon. Recall that in 2008 it was Obama who was coming for your guns and your religion, so they said; this year, it's Hillary.

Naturally and I've been aknowledging this phenomenon ever since this year's Oklahoma primary (seriously, the Panhandle went from supporting Hillary in 2008, to Randall freaking Terry in 2012 and now Sanders). All I mean is that the whole "Sanders campaign is racist" is just as dumb as saying that Hillary's 2008 campaign was "racist".

[Antonio the Sixth]

Maybe it's not the alcohol that's causing the raping. Maybe it's rapists who are causing the raping.

[Virginiá]

Maybe it's not the alcohol that's causing the raping. Maybe it's rapists who are causing the raping.

omg lol. that could really go in the funny post archive as well.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

I think we ought to hold our moderators to a higher standard than just "not a Trump supporter".

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

I'm actually starting to think that Obama is one of the best presidents, but that says more about the other presidents than it does about Obama.

[Antonio the Sixth]

The vast majority of people vote for emotional reasons. Thank God.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

I sort of think we should keep Jackson.  Obviously, he did some pretty bad things, but Jacksonian Democracy and the expansion of the electorate were very important in creating the United States as a truly democratic nation.

So was the Underground Railroad.

[Figueira]

There's no real meaningful distinction between social and economic issues.

[White Trash]

I just can't get over a group named after a group of capitalist, ethno-nationalist, genocidal militants from over 100 years lecturing minorities and women about how to be properly progressive.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

Once again, people on Atlas fail to understand that very few people, especially young people, vote on any sort of grounded ideology.

Nah actually people care deeply about the friscool-aidy clonkservetev sosheally livreal ideologies.

[Sumner 1868]

Once again, people on Atlas fail to understand that very few people, especially young people, vote on any sort of grounded ideology.

Nah actually people care deeply about the friscool-aidy clonkservetev sosheally livreal ideologies.

Never change CrabCake.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

McKinley, easily (not a racist, xenophobe, or radical).

But pro-child labor and worker-exploitation, with supporting a party equally (in action), racist and exploitative to minorities.

Were they perfect on race?  No.  Neither were the Radical Republicans.  Were they better than Democrats?  Absolutely...

[Antonio the Sixth]

"Hmm, the Democrats might nominate that telegenic forty-something.  We should try to compete with that."




"Aw crap, no we really should try to compete with him.  Let's get somebody with the same eloquent way with words as their guy to be our Veep."




"So look, people kept talking about McCain's eight houses and how out of touch that made him look, especially during a tough economy.  We should keep that in mind with our next nominee.  Plus, we reeeeally need charisma to go up against their guy!"




"Sigh, okay look, we've been losing because people say we're not connecting with women and minorities.  What should we do?"

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

This story and article are lovely and this thread is a sh**tshow.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

A friend of mine described Fiorina perfectly:

"As a walking, talking PowerPoint presentation, a repeat-loser, and a face of corporate incompetence being rewarded with golden parachutes, Fiorina would manage to make Hillary look naturally warm and 'likeable.'"