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BaldEagle1991
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« on: November 29, 2012, 09:39:44 PM »

Do you think there will be a time where there hasn't been a Republican President for a long time, several diverse red states like Georgia, North Carolina, and Texas all go into the competitive territory, and when several older white voters are beginning to die off, and that economic gaps like wages, employment, and education between whites and minorities get closer, that the Republican Party decides to say "enough is enough, let's try hard to target minorities aggressively as much as possible!"? For some reason I can see this happening, and could lead to a slight realignment. Do you think?
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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2012, 09:41:59 PM »

Haven' the Conservatives in Canada and the UK been doing a lot better with minorities in the past five years or so? Maybe if the Republicans take some hints from them they'll see improvement, until then I don't see much room for growth except maybe with Asians.
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2012, 09:43:38 PM »

I think it will require a landslide election. 2012 won't cut it. I have a feeling it might be coming soon....just look at the way whites voted in Senatorial and Gubernatorial races. If a candidate can cut the Republican margin with whites down to 12-13%, while getting huge support and turnout from minorities, you are looking at a 10-12 point landslide even in 2016, not to mention in the 2020s (when the landslide is more likely).
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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2012, 11:07:29 PM »

An area the republicans should try to attack is South Florida, that area has really killed them in the past couple of elections, they more than likely won't win the Miami area any time soon, but they need to really get some votes from that area as Northern Florida usually goes for them anyway. They just need someone who can get the message across to minority voters better, like a conservative version of Barack Obama.
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2012, 12:16:03 AM »

Do you think there will be a time where there hasn't been a Republican President for a long time, several diverse red states like Georgia, North Carolina, and Texas all go into the competitive territory, and when several older white voters are beginning to die off, and that economic gaps like wages, employment, and education between whites and minorities get closer, that the Republican Party decides to say "enough is enough, let's try hard to target minorities aggressively as much as possible!"? For some reason I can see this happening, and could lead to a slight realignment. Do you think?

Very possible. That's why I hope Clinton run in 2016
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2012, 09:29:36 AM »

Haven' the Conservatives in Canada and the UK been doing a lot better with minorities in the past five years or so? Maybe if the Republicans take some hints from them they'll see improvement, until then I don't see much room for growth except maybe with Asians.

Asians....no. Hispanics...probably.
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2012, 09:34:11 AM »

Their strategy probably consists of repackaging their reactionary nativism and getting a token minority to peddle it.
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2012, 09:39:56 AM »

Their strategy probably consists of repackaging their reactionary nativism and getting a token minority to peddle it.
That was their attempt at a strategy the past couple of years.
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2012, 09:42:56 AM »

The first step is to STOP nominating the O'Donnells, Bucks, Angles, Mourdocks and Akins.
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2012, 01:16:19 PM »

Their strategy probably consists of repackaging their reactionary nativism and getting a token minority to peddle it.
Are you talking about Herman Cain?
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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2012, 02:40:30 PM »

Their strategy probably consists of repackaging their reactionary nativism and getting a token minority to peddle it.
Are you talking about Herman Cain?
He's talking about Allen West.
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2012, 05:51:43 PM »

Do you think there will be a time where there hasn't been a Republican President for a long time, several diverse red states like Georgia, North Carolina, and Texas all go into the competitive territory, and when several older white voters are beginning to die off, and that economic gaps like wages, employment, and education between whites and minorities get closer, that the Republican Party decides to say "enough is enough, let's try hard to target minorities aggressively as much as possible!"? For some reason I can see this happening, and could lead to a slight realignment. Do you think?

Too early to ask. Eight years, which is all that anyone dares predict now, isn't that long.  Twelve? Clinton won decisively in 1992 after 8 years of Reagan and 4 of the honorable George Bush. North Carolina was competitive in both 2008 and 2012 and had been drifting D since 1988. Could you be thinking of Indiana? Arizona? Georgia was competitive in 2008 and on the fringe of competitiveness in 2012.

The narrowing gap between whites and minorities is more likely to intensify the enmity of poor whites toward anyone liberal -- unless there is a major shift in attitudes on economics. The South has alternated between populism and reaction since the Civil War, and a conservative trend that began in the 1980s may be close to playing itself out. Remember -- Jimmy Carter won every former-Confederate state except Virginia in 1976. If poor whites turn against economic elites that have treated them badly economically while pandering to 'culture', then the GOP is going to face a landslide about as nasty as the one that Ronald Reagan had in 1980.

This response really belongs in the long-term trends category, and I will replicate this post with some modification in "Presidential trends".
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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2012, 05:57:07 PM »

Their strategy will probably be pander pander pander, but at first people will see right through it.
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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2012, 06:15:12 PM »

Haven' the Conservatives in .. the UK been doing a lot better with minorities in the past five years or so?

To a degree. To their credit they seem to ask themselves the question 'how can we get support', rather than 'how can we stop them voting'. The latter (from this side of the Atlantic) seems to be the approach of the GOP.
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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2012, 07:14:09 PM »

Their strategy probably consists of repackaging their reactionary nativism and getting a token minority to peddle it.
Are you talking about Herman Cain?
He's talking about Allen West.
Allen West didn't run for President Herman Cain did. I'm missing what you guys are saying.
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« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2012, 07:15:59 PM »

Their strategy will probably be pander pander pander, but at first people will see right through it.
Obama pandered a little bit remember the temporary amnesty thing?
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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2012, 07:19:00 PM »
« Edited: November 30, 2012, 07:48:50 PM by hopper »

The first step is to STOP nominating the O'Donnells, Bucks, Angles, Mourdocks and Akins.
Buck and Murdock thats a little different. Murdock lost because of the rape comment. Buck lost because of a case he didn't prosecute a case. The rest you listed I agree the GOP needs to stop nominating far-fight wing people.

Oh yeah here is a start-stop saying you are in favor of self-deportation, atop doing Arizona Immigration Style Laws, and repealing the 14th amendment. Don't scare Latino's out of their minds. Latino's think you want to break up their family like that with those 3 things that I mentioned. The R's need to watch their rhetoric on minority's and immigration. If Latino's and Asians fear you they could care less about your viewpoint on other issues: like taxes and the economy. 
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« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2012, 08:22:32 PM »

Maybe they should acknowledge that minorities are Americans too?
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« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2012, 08:25:26 PM »

Their strategy will probably be pander pander pander, but at first people will see right through it.
Obama pandered a little bit remember the temporary amnesty thing?

Oh yeah I forgot about that. Guess that huge massive gigantic pandering tactic did work.

But with Republicans it'll sound completely unnatural at first, while Obama's complete shift was because not really many people other than political junkies knew how many people he has been deporting.
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« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2012, 08:31:10 PM »

What the GOP needs to do is isolate the racists.  Show them they are not welcome to the party.  Let them form a third party or leave the country.  But every time a Republican doesn't step up when he hears his supporters make racist remarks, he loses many more independent voters.

If Republicans were more like Olympia Snowe I might be voting for them.
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« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2012, 12:45:16 AM »

Their strategy probably consists of repackaging their reactionary nativism and getting a token minority to peddle it.
Are you talking about Herman Cain?
He's talking about Allen West.

I thought he meant Michael Steele.
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« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2012, 02:50:09 AM »

Maybe they should acknowledge that minorities are Americans too?



That will probably become the first step.
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« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2012, 08:38:09 AM »

What the GOP needs to do is isolate the racists.  Show them they are not welcome to the party.  Let them form a third party or leave the country.  But every time a Republican doesn't step up when he hears his supporters make racist remarks, he loses many more independent voters.

If Republicans were more like Olympia Snowe I might be voting for them.

What do you do though when the base of your party is made up of people who for all intents and purposes think Hispanics should gtfo? The South is in charge of the party these days and there is virtually no moderating region left within the GOP. No Northeast Republicans (like Senator Snowe) who can move the debate away from immigration and social conservatism back to fiscal issues which could win back some voters.
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« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2012, 09:36:53 AM »

Their strategy probably consists of repackaging their reactionary nativism and getting a token minority to peddle it.
Are you talking about Herman Cain?
He's talking about Allen West.
Allen West didn't run for President Herman Cain did. I'm missing what you guys are saying.
Serious answer: We were talking about people like that, but not about one specific person.
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« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2012, 12:41:09 PM »

What the GOP needs to do is isolate the racists.  Show them they are not welcome to the party.  Let them form a third party or leave the country.  But every time a Republican doesn't step up when he hears his supporters make racist remarks, he loses many more independent voters.

If Republicans were more like Olympia Snowe I might be voting for them.

If Republicans were more like Olympia Snowe, the Conservative Party of America would be winning 20%+ of the vote.
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