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Question: Should interracial marriages be allowed?
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Author Topic: Should interracial marriages be allowed?  (Read 30267 times)
A18
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« on: March 14, 2005, 05:56:36 PM »

Yes.

However, the abominations known as 'gay marriage' and 'incestuous marriage' should not be. Polygamy is a much more mild practice, but I would ban it as well.
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A18
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2005, 05:59:41 PM »

So do you support incestuous marriage and polygamy?
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A18
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2005, 06:02:04 PM »

Wow, someone actually voted no. That's sad.

A trollish Democrat, I'm sure.
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A18
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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2005, 11:26:59 PM »

Um, okay, race exists... I didn't realize anyone was disputing this. Who cares?
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A18
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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2005, 12:47:36 AM »

Men commit more violent crimes than women.
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A18
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2005, 12:50:47 AM »

Men commit more violent crimes than women.

Well, yes, but there is a clear biological explanation behind that (the presence of more testosterone).

And AuH2O is saying there's a biological reason blacks commit more violent crimes than whites. Even if it's true, so what?
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A18
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2005, 12:54:59 AM »

It will be a few minutes. I changed my mind-- please continue to attack me rather than at least wait to see what I most post.

Your maturity is impressive.
"I wish they'd shut up so I can find some website that says 50% of crimes were commited by blacks!" is what you are probably thinking.

Just post these links and then people may stop attacking you.  Maybe.  Otherwise you'll appear like you're still searching for the links.

Um, no. It takes a while to dig stuff up you haven't looked at recently.
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A18
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2005, 12:56:01 AM »

Men commit more violent crimes than women.

Well, yes, but there is a clear biological explanation behind that (the presence of more testosterone).

And AuH2O is saying there's a biological reason blacks commit more violent crimes than whites. Even if it's true, so what?

That is a point, but I would like him to prove that there is a biological reason first before we burn that bridge.

Why? It's entirely irrelevant. You don't shun people because some group they happen to by birth belong to commits more crimes than another group.
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A18
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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2005, 01:02:01 AM »

What does not wanting to live in poor, urban hellholes have to do with being upset because your sister dates some black guy?
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A18
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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2005, 01:10:54 AM »

If you're not defending it, what are you defending?
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A18
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2005, 01:28:46 AM »

Crime Data
FBI Uniform Crime Report, 2003
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/ucr.htm

2003, Section IV

note on data: since hispanic is not a race, many are included in the "white" crime rates, thus skewing them to the left. The number of non-hispanic whites is roughly 5.4 times the population of blacks in the US. Using that number will actually underestimate black crime rates because of the aforementioned hispanic confusion of the data, but nevertheless the data is statistically significant.

Arrests by race

Murder
white: 49.1%
black: 48.5%

-- Blacks are slightly more than 5 times more likely than whites to commit murder.

Larceny (theft)
white: 68.5%
black: 28.8%

-- after a ratio adjustment, blacks are still more likely to commit larceny, but the rate is far lower. If economic factors drive crime, then in theory blacks should be even more likely to steal than they do.

Aggravated Assault
white: 64.7%
black: 33%

-- This contradicts the idea blacks are simply in a more violent environment as an explanation for their murder rate. They are more likely to commit assault, by roughly 2.7 times, but nowhere near their proclivity in terms of murder rates.

Drunk Driving
white: 88%
black: 9.6%

-- Used to demonstrate the data is not somehow biased against blacks; in fact, as we will see, quite the opposite-- it is probably biased in their favor overall.

Now, in terms of the idea blacks commit more crime because they are more often in poverty:

2004 US Census Press Release

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:e6p-Ou2fnowJ:www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/income_wealth/002484.html+income+data+by+race&hl=en

Whites account for 44% of Americans in "poverty." Taking into account black population size at the time of the census, roughly 8.6 million blacks were in poverty; slightly less than hispanics and only slightly more than half the number of whites in poverty.

Taking into account the Uniform Crime Report's inclusion of hispanics into their "white" dataset, the property crime rates seem to follow the above numbers.

In other words, it is not surprising that 28.9% of forgery arrests were made on black offenders; though they make up roughly ~25% of those in poverty, that is a fairly small difference.

The inconsistencies emerge with regard to violent crimes. Blacks, for instance, again commit ~29% of arsons designed to attack property-- but 37% committed for violent purposes.

Blacks commit 23.9% of non-rape sex offenses, which again is higher per capita than whites but not unreasonable given poverty rates. However, they commit 33.3% of forcible rapes, well above the expected number.






If anyone is interested in intelligent discussion, which I doubt, the topic is more than suitable.

Okay. Now are you against men dating women because men commit more violent crimes?
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A18
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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2005, 01:32:39 AM »

So many behavioral patterns are genetic that I find it a bit bizarre everyone is so quick to jump on AuH2O just for posting that blacks are more likely to commit violent crimes.
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A18
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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2005, 01:37:17 AM »

I'm not even refuting your point. You still haven't told me why it matters.
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A18
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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2009, 11:34:29 PM »

Coffeebeans: Think about the phrase "human race" for a few seconds, and then go re-read Ernest's post.
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