Opinion of the permabanned posters: Haley/Ryan

[Badger]

Other vatniks will be next. Good riddance to every last one of those bootlickers.

He was not a Vatnicks. He opposed aid to Israel too despite being very Pro Israel so his position was more that he opposed all foreign aid in general.

He supported the sanctions we had against Russia for example and clearly opposed their goals of regime change. Again people on here had a tendency to take everything he said out of context and did it over and over again .

I'm just going to say that you yambering on the fences for a grotesque anti-semite and racist, plus a guy who very recently defended the so-called freedom of speech involved in AI Kiddy porn, you're really doing yourself a disservice. Might I suggest a nice big Frosty glass of STFU juice before you do yourself any more damage?

[President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️]

HP all things considered, but don't recall a negative interaction with the user in question.

That said, OSR claiming ER is a liberal is ... a take.

Classic case of syntactic ambiguity; OSR is saying ER is a conservative who bows down to liberals, not that he is a liberal.

Oh! Yeah, that makes way more sense. I didn't really pick that up.

[GeorgiaModerate]

HP all things considered, but don't recall a negative interaction with the user in question.

That said, OSR claiming ER backs down (edit) to liberal mods is ... a take.

ER is a thoughtful and objective mod and an asset to the mod team.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Curious what he said that was ban worth but considering he was more or less calling FT-02 a terrorist for using Islamic terms for Heaven and wisdom and upset that people recommend the post with the terms in it, I’m not too shocked he has been

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

I'll admit I misread OSR's post. ER is and should be allowed to speak for himself, but he doesn't bow down to liberals. The fringe group within Conservacord isn't entitled to representation at the mod table, no matter how much some people wish that were the case.

If you have a problem with ER, take your beef to him but don't expect a different explanation for the sanctions that has already been given.

[Farmlands]

Curious what he said that was ban worth but considering he was more or less calling FT-02 a terrorist for using Islamic terms for Heaven and wisdom and upset that people recommend the post with the terms in it, I’m not too shocked he has been

He didn't do anything of the sort, though it seems like it's the prevailing narrative. What he did was criticize other posters for blindly reccomending a post with expressions they don't know, when those terms's meaning could range from anything positive to very negative, in general.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Curious what he said that was ban worth but considering he was more or less calling FT-02 a terrorist for using Islamic terms for Heaven and wisdom and upset that people recommend the post with the terms in it, I’m not too shocked he has been

He didn't do anything of the sort, though it seems like it's the prevailing narrative. What he did was criticize other posters for blindly reccomending a post with expressions they don't know, when those terms's meaning could range from anything positive to very negative, in general.

Speaking for my myself, not only would I be proud of my son/daughter for not only being able to get into Columbia, but I'd be even more proud that he/she was standing up for their oppressed brothers and sisters in Ghazzah as any Muslim should.

That would be the sign that I've raised them right by not only having academic excellence, but also a strong deen. Inshallah, his/her efforts, while not being rewarded in this world, and in this society, shall be rewarded where it truly matters. In the akhirah.

I appreciate that, given that none of the people who recommended this post are Muslim, almost all of them probably recommended it despite not knowing what the words "deen" (literally just judgement, no reason this couldn't have been said in English) and "akirah" (heaven) meant. AFE could have put will to futuh (conquest) and houri (virgin reward for warriors) instead and they wouldn't have blinked an eye.

This part reads pretty bad that FT-02 uses Islamic terms and his kind immediately goes there

[OSR stands with Israel]

Curious what he said that was ban worth but considering he was more or less calling FT-02 a terrorist for using Islamic terms for Heaven and wisdom and upset that people recommend the post with the terms in it, I’m not too shocked he has been

He didn't do anything of the sort, though it seems like it's the prevailing narrative. What he did was criticize other posters for blindly reccomending a post with expressions they don't know, when those terms's meaning could range from anything positive to very negative, in general.

Speaking for my myself, not only would I be proud of my son/daughter for not only being able to get into Columbia, but I'd be even more proud that he/she was standing up for their oppressed brothers and sisters in Ghazzah as any Muslim should.

That would be the sign that I've raised them right by not only having academic excellence, but also a strong deen. Inshallah, his/her efforts, while not being rewarded in this world, and in this society, shall be rewarded where it truly matters. In the akhirah.

I appreciate that, given that none of the people who recommended this post are Muslim, almost all of them probably recommended it despite not knowing what the words "deen" (literally just judgement, no reason this couldn't have been said in English) and "akirah" (heaven) meant. AFE could have put will to futuh (conquest) and houri (virgin reward for warriors) instead and they wouldn't have blinked an eye.

This part reads pretty bad that FT-02 uses Islamic terms and his kind immediately goes there

The thread literally showed examples of white liberals endorsing use of words such as intifada so his point was that anti Israel progressives would endorse the use of any word even if it wasn’t in the language they understand

You guys are lying about the intent of the post and it is absolutely disgusting but the mod team won’t do anything cause it’s staffed by over 2/3rd liberals .

[OSR stands with Israel]

Other vatniks will be next. Good riddance to every last one of those bootlickers.

He was not a Vatnicks. He opposed aid to Israel too despite being very Pro Israel so his position was more that he opposed all foreign aid in general.

He supported the sanctions we had against Russia for example and clearly opposed their goals of regime change. Again people on here had a tendency to take everything he said out of context and did it over and over again .

I'm just going to say that you yambering on the fences for a grotesque anti-semite and racist, plus a guy who very recently defended the so-called freedom of speech involved in AI Kiddy porn, you're really doing yourself a disservice. Might I suggest a nice big Frosty glass of STFU juice before you do yourself any more damage?

He’s neither an anti semite or racist . His political views are literally just Vosem’s but more aggressive .

It’s actually lying to call him an anti semite

[MasterJedi]

Other vatniks will be next. Good riddance to every last one of those bootlickers.

He was not a Vatnicks. He opposed aid to Israel too despite being very Pro Israel so his position was more that he opposed all foreign aid in general.

He supported the sanctions we had against Russia for example and clearly opposed their goals of regime change. Again people on here had a tendency to take everything he said out of context and did it over and over again .

I'm just going to say that you yambering on the fences for a grotesque anti-semite and racist, plus a guy who very recently defended the so-called freedom of speech involved in AI Kiddy porn, you're really doing yourself a disservice. Might I suggest a nice big Frosty glass of STFU juice before you do yourself any more damage?

He’s neither an anti semite or racist . His political views are literally just Vosem’s but more aggressive

Stop simping for the racists who use your vote but would happily deport you based on the color of your skin and religion alone. It’s very naïve.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Other vatniks will be next. Good riddance to every last one of those bootlickers.

He was not a Vatnicks. He opposed aid to Israel too despite being very Pro Israel so his position was more that he opposed all foreign aid in general.

He supported the sanctions we had against Russia for example and clearly opposed their goals of regime change. Again people on here had a tendency to take everything he said out of context and did it over and over again .

I'm just going to say that you yambering on the fences for a grotesque anti-semite and racist, plus a guy who very recently defended the so-called freedom of speech involved in AI Kiddy porn, you're really doing yourself a disservice. Might I suggest a nice big Frosty glass of STFU juice before you do yourself any more damage?

He’s neither an anti semite or racist . His political views are literally just Vosem’s but more aggressive

Stop simping for the racists who use your vote but would happily deport you based on the color of your skin and religion alone. It’s very naïve.

Dude was literally to the left of me on immigration. He literally posted his immigration policy would be to let corporations pick whomever they wanted to hire .

The only exception he stated was from a particular region of the world and seeing how immigrants from the region have acted since 10/7 he was 100% correct about that . It’s not bigoted to think that ,and liberals believing we should allow immigrants who hate our country our our Allies is actually the far bigger problem.


Anyway his ban is proof this forum has no interest in allowing any aggressive conservatives to post here . There is absolutely no justification whatsoever in banning H/R

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

Other vatniks will be next. Good riddance to every last one of those bootlickers.

He was not a Vatnicks. He opposed aid to Israel too despite being very Pro Israel so his position was more that he opposed all foreign aid in general.

He supported the sanctions we had against Russia for example and clearly opposed their goals of regime change. Again people on here had a tendency to take everything he said out of context and did it over and over again .

I'm just going to say that you yambering on the fences for a grotesque anti-semite and racist, plus a guy who very recently defended the so-called freedom of speech involved in AI Kiddy porn, you're really doing yourself a disservice. Might I suggest a nice big Frosty glass of STFU juice before you do yourself any more damage?

He’s neither an anti semite or racist . His political views are literally just Vosem’s but more aggressive

Stop simping for the racists who use your vote but would happily deport you based on the color of your skin and religion alone. It’s very naïve.

Dude was literally to the left of me on immigration. He literally posted his immigration policy would be to let corporations pick whomever they wanted to hire .

The only exception he stated was from a particular region of the world and seeing how immigrants from the region have acted since 10/7 he was 100% correct about that . It’s not bigoted to think that ,and liberals believing we should allow immigrants who hate our country our our Allies is actually the far bigger problem.


Anyway his ban is proof this forum has no interest in allowing any aggressive conservatives to post here . There is absolutely no justification whatsoever in banning H/R

No one's pretending that you yourself haven't been radicalized by a certain social circle which happens to include the most recently muted user. You're not an "Old School" Republican anymore, you're a generic one who dislikes Trump personally but is aligned with him on everything else. That has been the case for well over a year. No one is calling for your ban.

One difference between you and H/R is that the latter was better at articulating himself. Agree with it or not, fewer people take you seriously for that reason, and the persecution complex displayed by the likes of you and Fuzzy Bear won't win you guys any sympathy.

If it's that bad, and if the mod team is that skewed against any genuine right-of-center views, why do you keep coming here?

[America Needs R'hllor]

He was just banned? I didn’t know that. Hed led a transphobic life, what else can you say? Whether you agree or not ... he led a transphobic life. He was a transohpbic hater who led a transphobic life. I'm actually happy to hear that.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Other vatniks will be next. Good riddance to every last one of those bootlickers.

He was not a Vatnicks. He opposed aid to Israel too despite being very Pro Israel so his position was more that he opposed all foreign aid in general.

He supported the sanctions we had against Russia for example and clearly opposed their goals of regime change. Again people on here had a tendency to take everything he said out of context and did it over and over again .

I'm just going to say that you yambering on the fences for a grotesque anti-semite and racist, plus a guy who very recently defended the so-called freedom of speech involved in AI Kiddy porn, you're really doing yourself a disservice. Might I suggest a nice big Frosty glass of STFU juice before you do yourself any more damage?

He’s neither an anti semite or racist . His political views are literally just Vosem’s but more aggressive

Stop simping for the racists who use your vote but would happily deport you based on the color of your skin and religion alone. It’s very naïve.

Dude was literally to the left of me on immigration. He literally posted his immigration policy would be to let corporations pick whomever they wanted to hire .

The only exception he stated was from a particular region of the world and seeing how immigrants from the region have acted since 10/7 he was 100% correct about that . It’s not bigoted to think that ,and liberals believing we should allow immigrants who hate our country our our Allies is actually the far bigger problem.


Anyway his ban is proof this forum has no interest in allowing any aggressive conservatives to post here . There is absolutely no justification whatsoever in banning H/R

No one's pretending that you yourself haven't been radicalized by a certain social circle which happens to include the most recently muted user. You're not an "Old School" Republican anymore, you're a generic one who dislikes Trump personally but is aligned with him on everything else. That has been the case for well over a year. No one is calling for your ban.

One difference between you and H/R is that the latter was better at articulating himself. Agree with it or not, fewer people take you seriously for that reason, and the persecution complex displayed by the likes of you and Fuzzy Bear won't win you guys any sympathy.

If it's that bad, and if the mod team is that skewed against any genuine right-of-center views, why do you keep coming here?

Haley/Ryan wasn’t on conservacord until he got banned . Fuzzy and I keep complaining because unlike the vast majority of ccord posters we liked how the forum was in the Muon era and we just want that era of moderating back .

Neither of us had much problem with the moderating team in that era

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

No one's pretending that you yourself haven't been radicalized by a certain social circle which happens to include the most recently muted user. You're not an "Old School" Republican anymore, you're a generic one who dislikes Trump personally but is aligned with him on everything else. That has been the case for well over a year. No one is calling for your ban.

One difference between you and H/R is that the latter was better at articulating himself. Agree with it or not, fewer people take you seriously for that reason, and the persecution complex displayed by the likes of you and Fuzzy Bear won't win you guys any sympathy.

If it's that bad, and if the mod team is that skewed against any genuine right-of-center views, why do you keep coming here?

That most recent muted posters wasn’t on conservacord until he got banned . Fuzzy and I keep complaining because unlike the vast majority of ccord posters we liked how the forum was in the Muon era and we just want that era of moderating back .

Neither of us had much problem with the moderating team in that era

I don't see what the difference is. For reference, this is the justification given for banning H/R:

Haley/Ryan has been permanently banned for continuing to make bigoted posts, for implying support violence in one post in particular, and for overall being disruptive. This comes after a series of mutes and temporary bans over the last 4 years.

None of this is new. The TOS hasn't changed. When you build up a paper trail that includes bigotry and frequently derailing threads, and when you have been muted and tempbanned multiple times over a given period for it (in H/R's case it was pretty much since he started posting 4 or 5 years ago), that eventually escalates to a permaban.

Even Sanchez, a personal friend whom I spoke for and advocated to the mods for his return, ultimately squandered that privilege by posting the same type of stuff that got him banned in the first place.

[OSR stands with Israel]

No one's pretending that you yourself haven't been radicalized by a certain social circle which happens to include the most recently muted user. You're not an "Old School" Republican anymore, you're a generic one who dislikes Trump personally but is aligned with him on everything else. That has been the case for well over a year. No one is calling for your ban.

One difference between you and H/R is that the latter was better at articulating himself. Agree with it or not, fewer people take you seriously for that reason, and the persecution complex displayed by the likes of you and Fuzzy Bear won't win you guys any sympathy.

If it's that bad, and if the mod team is that skewed against any genuine right-of-center views, why do you keep coming here?

That most recent muted posters wasn’t on conservacord until he got banned . Fuzzy and I keep complaining because unlike the vast majority of ccord posters we liked how the forum was in the Muon era and we just want that era of moderating back .

Neither of us had much problem with the moderating team in that era

I don't see what the difference is. For reference, this is the justification given for banning H/R:

Haley/Ryan has been permanently banned for continuing to make bigoted posts, for implying support violence in one post in particular, and for overall being disruptive. This comes after a series of mutes and temporary bans over the last 4 years.

None of this is new. The TOS hasn't changed. When you build up a paper trail that includes bigotry and frequently derailing threads, and when you have been muted and tempbanned multiple times over a given period for it (in H/R's case it was pretty much since he started posting 4 or 5 years ago), that eventually escalates to a permaban.

Even Sanchez, a personal friend whom I spoke for and advocated to the mods for his return, ultimately squandered that privilege by posting the same type of stuff that got him banned in the first place.

If atlas was moderated the same was it was in the Muon era , H/R doesn’t even get temp banned to begin with .

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

No one's pretending that you yourself haven't been radicalized by a certain social circle which happens to include the most recently muted user. You're not an "Old School" Republican anymore, you're a generic one who dislikes Trump personally but is aligned with him on everything else. That has been the case for well over a year. No one is calling for your ban.

One difference between you and H/R is that the latter was better at articulating himself. Agree with it or not, fewer people take you seriously for that reason, and the persecution complex displayed by the likes of you and Fuzzy Bear won't win you guys any sympathy.

If it's that bad, and if the mod team is that skewed against any genuine right-of-center views, why do you keep coming here?

That most recent muted posters wasn’t on conservacord until he got banned . Fuzzy and I keep complaining because unlike the vast majority of ccord posters we liked how the forum was in the Muon era and we just want that era of moderating back .

Neither of us had much problem with the moderating team in that era

I don't see what the difference is. For reference, this is the justification given for banning H/R:

Haley/Ryan has been permanently banned for continuing to make bigoted posts, for implying support violence in one post in particular, and for overall being disruptive. This comes after a series of mutes and temporary bans over the last 4 years.

None of this is new. The TOS hasn't changed. When you build up a paper trail that includes bigotry and frequently derailing threads, and when you have been muted and tempbanned multiple times over a given period for it (in H/R's case it was pretty much since he started posting 4 or 5 years ago), that eventually escalates to a permaban.

Even Sanchez, a personal friend whom I spoke for and advocated to the mods for his return, ultimately squandered that privilege by posting the same type of stuff that got him banned in the first place.

If atlas was moderated the same was it was in the Muon era , H/R doesn’t even get temp banned to begin with .

That's a bold assumption to make, especially since the TOS hasn't changed as far as I can recall.

[OSR stands with Israel]

No one's pretending that you yourself haven't been radicalized by a certain social circle which happens to include the most recently muted user. You're not an "Old School" Republican anymore, you're a generic one who dislikes Trump personally but is aligned with him on everything else. That has been the case for well over a year. No one is calling for your ban.

One difference between you and H/R is that the latter was better at articulating himself. Agree with it or not, fewer people take you seriously for that reason, and the persecution complex displayed by the likes of you and Fuzzy Bear won't win you guys any sympathy.

If it's that bad, and if the mod team is that skewed against any genuine right-of-center views, why do you keep coming here?

That most recent muted posters wasn’t on conservacord until he got banned . Fuzzy and I keep complaining because unlike the vast majority of ccord posters we liked how the forum was in the Muon era and we just want that era of moderating back .

Neither of us had much problem with the moderating team in that era

I don't see what the difference is. For reference, this is the justification given for banning H/R:

Haley/Ryan has been permanently banned for continuing to make bigoted posts, for implying support violence in one post in particular, and for overall being disruptive. This comes after a series of mutes and temporary bans over the last 4 years.

None of this is new. The TOS hasn't changed. When you build up a paper trail that includes bigotry and frequently derailing threads, and when you have been muted and tempbanned multiple times over a given period for it (in H/R's case it was pretty much since he started posting 4 or 5 years ago), that eventually escalates to a permaban.

Even Sanchez, a personal friend whom I spoke for and advocated to the mods for his return, ultimately squandered that privilege by posting the same type of stuff that got him banned in the first place.

If atlas was moderated the same was it was in the Muon era , H/R doesn’t even get temp banned to begin with .

That's a bold assumption to make, especially since the TOS hasn't changed as far as I can recall.

Far far less atlas conservatives got banned during his tenure. The current mod team has a far different interpretation of the TOS than the mod team back then

[Never Made it to Graceland]

No one's pretending that you yourself haven't been radicalized by a certain social circle which happens to include the most recently muted user. You're not an "Old School" Republican anymore, you're a generic one who dislikes Trump personally but is aligned with him on everything else. That has been the case for well over a year. No one is calling for your ban.

One difference between you and H/R is that the latter was better at articulating himself. Agree with it or not, fewer people take you seriously for that reason, and the persecution complex displayed by the likes of you and Fuzzy Bear won't win you guys any sympathy.

If it's that bad, and if the mod team is that skewed against any genuine right-of-center views, why do you keep coming here?

That most recent muted posters wasn’t on conservacord until he got banned . Fuzzy and I keep complaining because unlike the vast majority of ccord posters we liked how the forum was in the Muon era and we just want that era of moderating back .

Neither of us had much problem with the moderating team in that era

I don't see what the difference is. For reference, this is the justification given for banning H/R:

Haley/Ryan has been permanently banned for continuing to make bigoted posts, for implying support violence in one post in particular, and for overall being disruptive. This comes after a series of mutes and temporary bans over the last 4 years.

None of this is new. The TOS hasn't changed. When you build up a paper trail that includes bigotry and frequently derailing threads, and when you have been muted and tempbanned multiple times over a given period for it (in H/R's case it was pretty much since he started posting 4 or 5 years ago), that eventually escalates to a permaban.

Even Sanchez, a personal friend whom I spoke for and advocated to the mods for his return, ultimately squandered that privilege by posting the same type of stuff that got him banned in the first place.

If atlas was moderated the same was it was in the Muon era , H/R doesn’t even get temp banned to begin with .

That's a bold assumption to make, especially since the TOS hasn't changed as far as I can recall.

Far far less atlas conservatives got banned during his tenure. The current mod team has a far different interpretation of the TOS than the mod team back then

Dude give it a rest.

[Rand]

More like Haley/Cryin’

[Ferguson97]

Far far less atlas conservatives got banned during his tenure. The current mod team has a far different interpretation of the TOS than the mod team back then

Or perhaps the pool of conservatives has gotten worse and breaks the rules more often?

[Ferguson97]

I don’t care how “polite” or articulate you are, holding certain beliefs makes you an evil person. Haley/Ryan is a shining example of that.

The nicest thing I can say about him is that he’s young enough to change as a person. IIRC he isn’t even 19 yet. Lots of people fall into extremism when they’re young, but become better when they get older. I hope he can change.

[OSR stands with Israel]

I don’t care how “polite” or articulate you are, holding certain beliefs makes you an evil person. Haley/Ryan is a shining example of that.

The nicest thing I can say about him is that he’s young enough to change as a person. IIRC he isn’t even 19 yet. Lots of people fall into extremism when they’re young, but become better when they get older. I hope he can change.

His views are basically Vosem's but with a more aggressive personality. Would you consider Vosem to be evil or a bigot

[Ferguson97]

His views are basically Vosem's but with a more aggressive personality. Would you consider Vosem to be evil or a bigot

Am I allowed to answer this question in the affirmative without being sanctioned for a personal attack?

[Never Made it to Graceland]

His views are basically Vosem's but with a more aggressive personality. Would you consider Vosem to be evil or a bigot

Am I allowed to answer this question in the affirmative without being sanctioned for a personal attack?

It's not like Vosem himself would even disagree. He responded to someone accusing him of advocating for Gaza to be bombed to smithereens by saying "yes, but technically...."

Hilarious that OSR has now been fighting about this for 20+ comments in here. Fighting for someone who privately probably thinks his family shouldn't have been allowed to come to this country.