Will Hillary Clinton run for President in 2020?
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« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2017, 08:09:51 PM »

One of the differences of a 2020 Hillary Clinton run is that she will not be the favorite for the nomination.  Another difference is that it's going to be more than a two (2) person race; she'll be running in a crowded field where other candidates will be at her level at a minimum. 

If she really gains some closure on the e-mail issue, the Clinton Foundation issues, to where the whole of America is honestly satisfied that she did nothing criminally illegal, then she could go forward.  She's only been the nominee once, and she did get more votes than the guy that was elected; that does count for something, and it's not certain that the others in the field would have done as well in 2016.  Two of the possible candidates, Biden and Sanders, will be even older than her, and if Al Gore actually threw his hat in, it would be the Rest Home Contingent.  (This includes Liz Warren, if she runs.) The problem for the Dems (but a blessing for Hillary) is that the YOUNGER candidates appear to not have a lot of substance, and their potential candidacies seem to be candidates only because of their race (Booker), gender (Harris), or location (Justice, Cooper). 

I don't see Hillary winning, but I don't see her as a sure loser in this scenario, either.  It's not impossible (although it is somewhat unlikely) that time will bring Americans to view Hillary as a candidate who was wronged on a number of fronts, and who was unfairly demonized.  She does have a contingent who would love it to be HER to stick it to the GOP and Trump and prevail in the end.  All of that, of course, has to be balanced against her image as the candidate who lost three (3) key states that haven't gone Republican since 1988.  (Indeed, Wisconsin hadn't gone Republican since 1984.)  The trick for her would be to preserve the sympathy she would have from being wronged in defeat and the "newness" her image would gain by her being "one of the group" on equal footing with the rest of the candidates.  Doing this won't be easy, but it IS possible. 
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« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2017, 11:52:04 PM »

No. She will move on to being a elder stateswoman. She clearly took her last loss very hard, and she has stated multiple times she isn't a fan of campaigns and the harsh attacks that come with them. I could see her waiting until after the primary and then endorsing a candidate. Unless there's someone very unfavorable in the primary race (ex. Gabbard) vs someone similar to her (ex. Gillibrand)
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« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2017, 01:10:47 PM »

She's only been the nominee once, and she did get more votes than the guy that was elected; that does count for something

The thing I really thing you're not picking up on is that she came from ahead to lose this race by the slimmest of margins when it never should've been close. Gore was neck and neck with Bush and won the election, then Bush got the presidency anyway, so he could've run again. Hillary proved that even against possibly the worst candidate in American history she couldn't hold her own.

People ran in the past and won I know, but Nixon lost an election by a few votes to a charismatic young Kennedy, and Reagan was held back from the nomination despite winning the most primary votes in 1968, was only 100 delegates behind in 1976, and in 1980 he ran as the obvious solution that had been ignored for 12 years. Hillary will not be doing that. Hillary will be running as the new Adlai Stevenson II. If you know who Adlai Stevenson the II you know that didn't work, and if you don't know Adlai Stevenson II then you can make an educated guess about what a massive, unbridled success his presidential campaigns were that you've never heard his name before.
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« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2017, 01:17:38 PM »

She's only been the nominee once, and she did get more votes than the guy that was elected; that does count for something

The thing I really thing you're not picking up on is that she came from ahead to lose this race by the slimmest of margins when it never should've been close. Gore was neck and neck with Bush and won the election, then Bush got the presidency anyway, so he could've run again. Hillary proved that even against possibly the worst candidate in American history she couldn't hold her own.

Yep, and Bush did not have terrible favorability numbers heading into election day, so losing to him wasn't seen as embarrassing in the same way losing to Trump did.  And of course, Bush had been (narrowly) leading the polls going into election day, so Gore didn't fail to meet expectations when the results came in, in the way that Hillary Clinton did in 2016.
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« Reply #29 on: April 11, 2017, 02:09:30 PM »

Clinton would be painted as Nixon 2.0 since she is a failed presidential nominee and was under FBI investigation.
You say that as if that's a bad thing.
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« Reply #30 on: April 11, 2017, 08:29:16 PM »

I really don't see that happening.
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