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« Reply #50 on: March 11, 2017, 08:28:58 PM »

Not commenting on the merits of the bill, which are very few compared to its vices.  But putting this in front of House committees to forward to the floor without any cost or coverage estimates from the CBO is over-the-moon irresponsible.  Yeah, they told us, the problem with the ACA was that they "rammed it down our throats," despite a year's worth of 180-some hearings, industry and congressional negotiations etc. etc.  But this one doesn't require industry negotiation, informed hearings, or even a month and a half of congressional deliberations, because it's our "last chance."  Dear GOP, you're a joke without a punchline. 
TBF, the CBO was way off on some of its ObamaCare predictions. It's not infallible.
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« Reply #51 on: March 11, 2017, 10:44:17 PM »

Republicans on the ACA throughout Obama's term and now:

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« Reply #52 on: March 11, 2017, 11:08:52 PM »

Not commenting on the merits of the bill, which are very few compared to its vices.  But putting this in front of House committees to forward to the floor without any cost or coverage estimates from the CBO is over-the-moon irresponsible.  Yeah, they told us, the problem with the ACA was that they "rammed it down our throats," despite a year's worth of 180-some hearings, industry and congressional negotiations etc. etc.  But this one doesn't require industry negotiation, informed hearings, or even a month and a half of congressional deliberations, because it's our "last chance."  Dear GOP, you're a joke without a punchline. 
TBF, the CBO was way off on some of its ObamaCare predictions. It's not infallible.

Regardless, it's going to look very bad when the CBO comes up with an estimate of 16 million people or so losing health insurance.
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« Reply #53 on: March 11, 2017, 11:19:57 PM »

The CBO was mostly right in its Obamacare projections (certainly much more accurate than the Republicans, who were basically entirely wrong). And many of their wrong predictions were wrong because they underestimated how effective the law would be.
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« Reply #54 on: March 24, 2017, 06:30:29 PM »

Looks like his chance is up.
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« Reply #55 on: March 24, 2017, 06:47:47 PM »

LOL
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« Reply #56 on: March 24, 2017, 06:54:12 PM »

Yup, Ryan was truthful. It's over.
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« Reply #57 on: March 24, 2017, 06:55:34 PM »

Paul Ryan has solidified Obama's triumphant progressive legacy. Beautiful!
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« Reply #58 on: March 24, 2017, 07:01:19 PM »

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« Reply #59 on: March 24, 2017, 07:31:05 PM »

Well, there goes your "last chance", you dope.
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« Reply #60 on: March 24, 2017, 08:09:04 PM »

This is beautiful.
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« Reply #61 on: March 24, 2017, 08:31:40 PM »

Excellent. 
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« Reply #62 on: March 24, 2017, 09:50:55 PM »

All we have to worry about now is whether the Man Child-in-Chief will lash out for his failures by actively sabotaging Obamacare in a temper tantrum.  Tongue
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« Reply #63 on: March 24, 2017, 11:42:27 PM »

This thread is a classic example of why the Right in Europe is not comparable to the Right in the United States. The European Right is far more big government than we are and find the American right baffling in their opposition to single payer. They are far more open to the welfare state than we are.

I, myself, don't back favor universal healthcare, Medicare for all, or single payer & and would prefer to restructure healthcare along the lines of guaranteeing more competition, restricting Medicare benefits to the truly needy, etc. while mandating a floor of coverage and care that would be of a quality nature. It's funny, because my position is to the right of Farage.

Something like Switzerland, perhaps?

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The Swiss franc (CHF) has nearly the same value as the US dollar, so CHF 400 works out to nearly $400.00.

It's not a good model, one of the more poor one's & has attracted a lot of criticism. For one, it is never going to work in a big country because Switzerland with its massive tourist economy, shadow banks n stuff is a rich country with good distribution of wealth among everyone. It is a small country & you can probably do this less efficient stuff.

There's a reason why every major country doesn't have this kind of a system - You can't say take a less efficient system in Monaco or Cayman Islands or the Vatican & try to replicate in a large country !
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