Why Gingrich is Bad (and Romney is Awesome): A Politico Megathread Spectacular

[Stardust]

In 2005, Gingrich appeared with then-Senator Hillary Clinton at an event called “Cease-fire on Health Care” at American University in Washington, where he called for “100 percent coverage,” and a system that involves a “transfer of finances” to help low-income people afford medical insurance.

Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-02/gingrich-accepting-gore-invite-lands-on-love-seat-with-pelosi.html

Sounds a lot like ObamaCare to me. Mitt Romney recognizes that healthcare is a state issue, not a federal issue. Does Newt Gingrich? Mitt Romney recognizes that there is no one-size-fits-all healthcare policy for every state. Does Newt Gingrich?

yawn...just wake me up when you come to the story detailing Newt sleeping with my wife.

So the jmfcsts really support ObamaCare?

Quite a few of them do; not our resident jmfcst, as he has more money than the usual member of his clan, but many of his brethren love the idea, although they will never admit it.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

In 2005, Gingrich appeared with then-Senator Hillary Clinton at an event called “Cease-fire on Health Care” at American University in Washington, where he called for “100 percent coverage,” and a system that involves a “transfer of finances” to help low-income people afford medical insurance.

Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-02/gingrich-accepting-gore-invite-lands-on-love-seat-with-pelosi.html

Sounds a lot like ObamaCare to me. Mitt Romney recognizes that healthcare is a state issue, not a federal issue. Does Newt Gingrich? Mitt Romney recognizes that there is no one-size-fits-all healthcare policy for every state. Does Newt Gingrich?

yawn...just wake me up when you come to the story detailing Newt sleeping with my wife.

So the jmfcsts really support ObamaCare? And teaming up with Nancy Pelosi and Al Gore on global warming? Methinks the jmfcsts might want to rethink their support (once again). Maybe Huntsman or Perry again? Or, god forbid, Romney?

 

Newt is simply an attention whore.  All these photo ops mean nothing.  When the time comes, Newt will be the jmfcsts' bitch in White House just like he was in the House during the 90's.

[Politico]

I'm just going to say this: Gingrich needs to stop giving Romney a hard time over signing a bill his state wanted. Gingrich lobbied for much more than that, and he did so with Hillary Clinton.

And Gingrich also needs to stop accusing Romney of opportunism. Romney has never looked for photo opportunities with the likes of Hillary Clinton, Al Gore and Nancy Pelosi, or even remotely considered stooping to that level like Gingrich has in the past.

[Yank2133]

I still don't see the point of these Newt threads.

Newt essentially coming out in favor of ObamaCare-style federal policy in 2005 is not worthy of discussion now that Gingrich is seemingly relevant?

It is a stupid thread.

Everyone knows about Newt's baggage, you keep starting this Newt thread it just makes you Romney supporters look desperate.

[Politico]

I still don't see the point of these Newt threads.

Newt essentially coming out in favor of ObamaCare-style federal policy in 2005 is not worthy of discussion now that Gingrich is seemingly relevant?

It is a stupid thread.

Everyone knows about Newt's baggage, you keep starting this Newt thread it just makes you Romney supporters look desperate.

I was not aware of this particular baggage until a few minutes ago. Were you really aware of this 2005 event with Hillary Clinton, and what he was calling for?

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

So we've found the one issue Gingrich is was sorta moderate on.

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[Negusa Nagast 🚀]

Politico,

Please put all of your Gingrich rage into one thread. The numerous different threads are annoying.

Sincerely,
Everyone Else

[Yank2133]

I still don't see the point of these Newt threads.

Newt essentially coming out in favor of ObamaCare-style federal policy in 2005 is not worthy of discussion now that Gingrich is seemingly relevant?

It is a stupid thread.

Everyone knows about Newt's baggage, you keep starting this Newt thread it just makes you Romney supporters look desperate.

I was not aware of this particular baggage until a few minutes ago. Were you really aware of this 2005 event with Hillary Clinton, and what he was calling for?

I didn't know about his event with Hillary. But it is irrelevant since he has a history of doing this sort of thing(ex. traveling with Sharpton, photo op with Pelosi.)

[Yank2133]

Are the Romney fanboys really that sacred of Newt Gingrich?

Politico's threads just reek of desperation IMO.

[Politico]

So we've found the one issue Gingrich is was sorta moderate on.

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Was this before or after he became enemies with Paul Ryan?

[Thomas D]

George W. Bush and Ted Kennedy would have called each other friend. This is no biggie.

[Likely Voter]

Politico,

Please put all of your Gingrich rage into one thread. The numerous different threads are annoying.

Sincerely,
Everyone Else

yes, please

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

Politico, you're a good man -- and I like you.  And you have been loyal to the jmfcsts for years.  I know you have doubts about Newt -- but you need to trust the jmfcsts on this one and show your loyalty by not stepping on the Newt.  Instead, I want you to be fair with Newt and end your relationship with Romney.  I have business that's important with POTUS-Elect Newt -- I don't want it disturbed.

...Look at it this way, Newt simply wants to be a "great man", not a newt...so we're going to give him a chance to be a man, by being, once again, our bitch.

[RogueBeaver]

Politico,

Please put all of your Gingrich rage into one thread. The numerous different threads are annoying.

Sincerely,
Everyone Else

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

I don't see Gingrich winning the key states. He'll get absolutely destroyed in suburban Philly, DC and South Florida..maybe even worse than McCain in 2008

Yes we know that no Republican could possibly win the election and yet lose the District of Columbia.

More seriously, I presume you meant NoVA rather than DC itself.  Yes, Virginia and Pennsylvania look to be swing states, but Florida shouldn't be.  If Florida is seriously in play, it looks to be an excellent night for Obama unless Florida swings considerably less Republican than the country as whole.

[Frodo]

I wonder if the average Tea Partier will recognize that Newt Gingrich is no different than Mitt Romney in that he is just as craven and ambitious, with no core ideology except of gaining power.

I can easily see Newt falling back to earth within the next couple of weeks -perhaps Michelle Bachmann, Rick Santorum, or Ron Paul will offer Tea Partiers a more meaningful alternative?  

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

I wonder if the average Tea Partier will recognize that Newt Gingrich is no different than Mitt Romney in that he is just as craven and ambitious, with no core ideology except of gaining power.

I can easily see Newt falling back to earth within the next couple of weeks -perhaps Michelle Bachmann, Rick Santorum, or Ron Paul will offer Tea Partiers a more meaningful alternative?  

Newt has a proven track record of carrying water for the jmfcsts, Mitt doesn't.  We don't mind nominating a suck-up, we've done it before, but we have to trust that a candidate will carry our water, and we don't trust Mitt.  Period.

[Frodo]

I wonder if the average Tea Partier will recognize that Newt Gingrich is no different than Mitt Romney in that he is just as craven and ambitious, with no core ideology except of gaining power.

I can easily see Newt falling back to earth within the next couple of weeks -perhaps Michelle Bachmann, Rick Santorum, or Ron Paul will offer Tea Partiers a more meaningful alternative?  

Newt has a proven track record of carrying water for the jmfcsts, Mitt doesn't.  We don't mind nominating a suck-up, we've done it before, but we have to trust that a candidate will carry our water, and we don't trust Mitt.  Period.

Why don't you run for President?  Or maybe some lower office in your area?  You certainly have the ego for it. 

[Zarn]

Newt was all talk in the 90s. He screwed us over then. What are you talking about?

[Averroës Nix]

Does jmfcst's quasi-endorsement of Newt make anyone else more skeptical of the former Speaker's chances?

[Frodo]

Newt was all talk in the 90s. He screwed us over then. What are you talking about?

Whom is this directed to, if I may ask?  Jmfcst?

[Zarn]

Newt was all talk in the 90s. He screwed us over then. What are you talking about?

Whom is this directed to, if I may ask?  Jmfcst?

Jmfcst.

Apologies to you.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Aiming for 100% coverage is not what most people have against Obamacare.

[Lief 🗽]

If the Republican party opposes everyone in the United States being covered by some sort of health insurance, then they are even crazier than I thought.

[BigSkyBob]

I still don't see the point of these Newt threads.

Newt essentially coming out in favor of ObamaCare-style federal policy in 2005 is not worthy of discussion now that Gingrich is seemingly relevant?

Wait, you are off by nearly a decade. In the days of Hilliary Care, Newt was applying the example of the formation of AT&T to the health care system. One of principles articulated by the founder of the national phone network Newt mentioned was that it had to be universal.

Of course, universal care is only one part of the analogy. AT&T was a quasi-public regulated monopoly. Apparently, that, too, is Gingrich's vision for health care in America.