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« Reply #50 on: January 31, 2009, 02:27:22 PM »

A high profile Democrat will attempt to primary Obama and fail miserably.
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« Reply #51 on: January 31, 2009, 02:28:49 PM »

A high profile Democrat will attempt to primary Obama and fail miserably.

Blagojevich?
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« Reply #52 on: January 31, 2009, 02:34:27 PM »

Obama will win in the Bronx.

Ya, I'm willing to go there. Cheesy
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« Reply #53 on: January 31, 2009, 02:44:50 PM »

Obama wins Clintonesquely, and Georgia votes for Obama
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« Reply #54 on: January 31, 2009, 02:55:55 PM »

Obama will win in the Bronx.

Ya, I'm willing to go there. Cheesy

The Republican will win Staten Island despite Obama's name ending in a vowel.
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« Reply #55 on: January 31, 2009, 03:16:50 PM »

Liberal, Kansas will continue it's non-liberal voting patterns.
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« Reply #56 on: January 31, 2009, 03:54:14 PM »

And how much did Bush have before he became president?

He didn't win on national security in 2000.

As a matter of fact, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Bush win because of his foreign policy stance when he campaigned? You know, no nation building and the sort?
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« Reply #57 on: January 31, 2009, 04:05:02 PM »


That wouldn't shock me at this point.
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« Reply #58 on: January 31, 2009, 04:23:59 PM »

And how much did Bush have before he became president?

He didn't win on national security in 2000.

As a matter of fact, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Bush win because of his foreign policy stance when he campaigned? You know, no nation building and the sort?

I think that was part of his campaign, but I don't recall it being an overarching theme like in 2004.  Also, I don't think he tied his "no nation-building" stance to national security, as national security wasn't really on anyone's minds at the time.  I could be wrong though. 
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« Reply #59 on: February 01, 2009, 03:39:11 AM »

Obama becomes the first presidential candidate since 1964 who gets more than 80% of the vote in a state (Hawaii).

And Obama became the first Democratic President to win every state within his region, the Midwest. Clinton couldn't do it, Carter couldn't do it, LBJ couldn't do it. Hell, I don't think Roosevelt even won all the states within his region. Now, for your information, I'm using the U.S. Census regions as a legend here.
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« Reply #60 on: February 01, 2009, 04:11:22 AM »

Obama becomes the first presidential candidate since 1964 who gets more than 80% of the vote in a state (Hawaii).

And Obama became the first Democratic President to win every state within his region, the Midwest. Clinton couldn't do it, Carter couldn't do it, LBJ couldn't do it. Hell, I don't think Roosevelt even won all the states within his region. Now, for your information, I'm using the U.S. Census regions as a legend here.

If you consider Roosevelt was from the Northeast then you're right.
Vermont and Maine never voted for him.

You could say that Wilson managed to carry every state of his native South.
But then again, he ran as Governor of New Jersey.
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« Reply #61 on: February 01, 2009, 04:50:45 AM »

Obama wins our hearts AND minds
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« Reply #62 on: February 01, 2009, 05:06:02 AM »

And how much did Bush have before he became president?

He didn't win on national security in 2000.

As a matter of fact, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Bush win because of his foreign policy stance when he campaigned? You know, no nation building and the sort?

I think that was part of his campaign, but I don't recall it being an overarching theme like in 2004.  Also, I don't think he tied his "no nation-building" stance to national security, as national security wasn't really on anyone's minds at the time.  I could be wrong though. 

You're not wrong... Bush did talk about "no nation building", but that was more of a code word for "no internationalism"... his campaign was really centered around "compassionate conservatism" and massive tax cuts.


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« Reply #63 on: February 03, 2009, 01:07:52 AM »

Obama becomes the first presidential candidate since 1964 who gets more than 80% of the vote in a state (Hawaii).

And Obama became the first Democratic President to win every state within his region, the Midwest. Clinton couldn't do it, Carter couldn't do it, LBJ couldn't do it. Hell, I don't think Roosevelt even won all the states within his region. Now, for your information, I'm using the U.S. Census regions as a legend here.

If you consider Roosevelt was from the Northeast then you're right.
Vermont and Maine never voted for him.

You could say that Wilson managed to carry every state of his native South.
But then again, he ran as Governor of New Jersey.

OK, let me make myself clear. Obama has been the only Democrat to win every state in a region he represents. Now, if we're talking about winning every state in a region where he was born, then that's a different point.
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« Reply #64 on: February 04, 2009, 08:19:33 PM »

Huckabee-Frist 
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« Reply #65 on: February 05, 2009, 12:54:10 AM »

Not so wild? Baseline: It's 2008 all over, except that Obama loses North Carolina and picks up Missouri. (Obama won North Carolina by less than the margin of Barr votes, and McCain won Missouri by a smaller margin than the Nader votes).

My real pick? The 2008 Obama victory is extended to include Georgia (military voters -- after graceful exits from Iraq and Afghanistan),  Texas (Hispanic voters), Arizona (ditto, with no Favorite Son), West Virginia and Kentucky (coal does well because of the steel boom): Montana and Missouri (they were close), and NE-01 (eastern Nebraska is much like Iowa).  The rest depends upon who wins the GOP nomination. Huckabee can't win outside the South, and Romney loses the whole South.

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« Reply #66 on: February 05, 2009, 06:25:59 PM »


Wins about everything that Obama didn't win in the South in 2008 except Texas and everything outside the South except for UT, WY, ID, OK, and NE-03.

Not the biggest blowout.
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« Reply #67 on: February 07, 2009, 07:38:48 PM »

Obama is defeated.
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« Reply #68 on: February 07, 2009, 10:03:17 PM »

Susan Collins wins the Republican nom, picks Tim Pawlenty as VP. Economy is better but still not great.
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« Reply #69 on: February 07, 2009, 11:21:50 PM »

Is Susan Collins married? If she isn't, I think the Gop wouldn't nominate her.
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« Reply #70 on: February 07, 2009, 11:39:10 PM »

Is Susan Collins married? If she isn't, I think the Gop wouldn't nominate her.

She is more likely to defect to the Democratic Party than be a GOP Presidential or VP nominee.
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« Reply #71 on: February 08, 2009, 12:08:18 AM »

Is Susan Collins married? If she isn't, I think the Gop wouldn't nominate her.

THAT is your reason for why she wouldn't get nominated?
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« Reply #72 on: February 08, 2009, 01:02:45 AM »

I could think of a few other reasons why she wouldn't win a primary.

Maine's GOP's ideology represents maybe 2-3% of the nationwide Republican primary electorate.
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« Reply #73 on: February 08, 2009, 01:11:22 AM »

I could think of a few other reasons why she wouldn't win a primary.

Maine's GOP's ideology represents maybe 2-3% of the nationwide Republican primary electorate.

Pro-choice
Pretty pro-gay (although I'm not sure if she's pro-gay marriage)
Opposes the death penalty
Liberal on environmental issues (although the GOP could benefit from going a little more liberal there, in my opinion)
Liberal-ish on immigration
Supported McCain-Feingold

She's pretty good on guns, but that won't helpe much after #'s 1 and 2.
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« Reply #74 on: February 08, 2009, 01:16:16 AM »
« Edited: February 08, 2009, 01:53:16 AM by NiK »

We will see the first inaugural speech of Mark Clement Sanford, Jr. on January 20, 2012, after the 350+ electoral vote defeat of Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.
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