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SillyAmerican
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« on: March 17, 2016, 07:04:30 AM »

Part II - The Kasich Path to Victory

1. 1,237 Delegates
Many comments are raising the fact that Kasich cannot mathematically reach 1,237 delegates, before the convention. While that is true, it really does not matter because realistically (as opposed to theoretically) at this point nobody can. Cruz certainly can't do it, with the three of them still competing, and while Trump could come very close, it is highly unlikely that he will. Therefore this one is going to the Convention, where nobody would have the necessary votes on the first ballot.

2. Convention Environment
The GOP Convention is being held in Cleveland and organized by the Ohio Republican party, which is loyal to Kasich. That alone gives Kasich some procedural advantages. By that time, Trump's negatives will begin to be felt in the media and with voters, especially the independent swing voters. Democrats will be playing up his negatives and running ads.  GOP will be genuinely looking who can get elected, and the delegates would vote in subsequent ballots, not out of loyalty to Trump, Cruz or Kasich, but out of necessity to try and win the Presidency, and hold its control of Congress.

3. Later Ballot Choices

After the initial ballots, the delegates will have a choice to nominate someone else, other than the three candidates. However that course of action would compromise the GOP Candidate from the start (the Democrats would have a field day with someone like Romney who"didn't run but used backroom deals"). To have any general election credibility, the only candidate which makes sense is one of the aforementioned three! And as I said, the only electable one is Kasich. Unless, Trump and Cruz team up on the first or second ballot, Kasich will eventually be the nominee!

Yes. And as I mentioned elsewhere, in the last 150 years, the GOP has had eight contested conventions, of which five ended up with a nominee other than the guy that was the frontrunner going in to that convention. So it's not like Governor Kasich is out of the question. I'm holding out hope that the #NeverTrump folks will find Kasich...
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SillyAmerican
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2016, 10:58:12 AM »

Your prediction is not too far fetched. I will leave my opinion open as there is a possibility the delegates could vanish on Trump if Kasich gets some momentum and looks solid enough to beat Clinton in June.

From your lips (keyboard) to God's ears...
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SillyAmerican
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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2016, 10:25:11 AM »

The Bloomberg national poll just came out, showing 1 on 1 matchups:

Clinton 54% Trump 36% (Clinton + 8%)
Clinton 51% Cruz 42% (Clinton + 18%)
Kasich 47% Clinton 43% (Kasich + 4%)

This is now the sixth national poll showing Cruz being destroyed by Clinton while Trump gets totally obliterated, in a head to head matchup. And in every single one of them Kasich beats Hillary (and Bernie).  Six separate independent polls cannot be all wrong. Having Cruz lose by 8% rather than Trump lose by 18% does NOT make the loss any more acceptable to the GOP.

And yet the biggest problem for the GOP establishment is apparently the fact that Kasich does not want to leave the race and leave Trump and Cruz as the only options? Yep, that sure makes a whole lot of sense.

O tempora o mores!

On Atlas perhaps, but in the media there is a concerted almost panicky effort to get Kasich to drop out. If you Google Kasich news, here are some of the headlines you get:

- The Insane Campaign of John Kasich
- John Kasich's horrible, no good, very bad campaign
- The Walking Dead: John Kasich Is Not Going to Win the Republican Presidential Nomination
- Everyone hates John Kasich (Get out...already)
- How many delegates will Kasich win for Trump today?
- John Kasich faces GOP calls to exit ‘16 race

The funny thing is that it is coming both from the far left and the far right - that tells a story in itself! I actually give him credit just in focusing and ignoring the cr.p.

Kasich is easily the best GOP candidate to go against Hillary, everybody knows it (including him), and he's staying in the race to let the process catch up with this fact. Those seeking to protest the establishment will vote Trump, those seeking partisanship clashing will vote Cruz, those seeking executive governance will vote Kasich. It's as simple as that.
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