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« Reply #175 on: September 07, 2013, 12:54:19 PM »

Booth results are up on the AEC site already (yay for sad people like us!)
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« Reply #176 on: September 07, 2013, 01:07:44 PM »

I wonder if it is really true that voters mistook the LDP as the LNP and that is how they got that Senate seat in NSW. That would really be sad.
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« Reply #177 on: September 07, 2013, 01:40:28 PM »

I wonder if it is really true that voters mistook the LDP as the LNP and that is how they got that Senate seat in NSW. That would really be sad.

The LDP was listed on the ballot as "Liberal Democrats" while the coalition was listed as "Liberals & Nationals" so I don't see how anyone could make that mistake tbh
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« Reply #178 on: September 07, 2013, 01:48:22 PM »

Look at how they go to the polls, the surf-slobs:

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« Reply #179 on: September 07, 2013, 02:40:57 PM »

This election though.
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« Reply #180 on: September 07, 2013, 06:19:40 PM »

Why did Tasmania swing so hard away from the ALP compared to the rest of the country? Is there some sort of government policy that's particularly unpopular in Tasmania right now?
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« Reply #181 on: September 07, 2013, 06:21:48 PM »

Why did Tasmania swing so hard away from the ALP compared to the rest of the country? Is there some sort of government policy that's particularly unpopular in Tasmania right now?

To quote Al, the ALP-Green state government is less popular than death.
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« Reply #182 on: September 07, 2013, 06:32:39 PM »

Why did Tasmania swing so hard away from the ALP compared to the rest of the country? Is there some sort of government policy that's particularly unpopular in Tasmania right now?

Obviously their attempts to legalise gay marriage and abortion-on-demand haven't gone down well.
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« Reply #183 on: September 07, 2013, 06:35:27 PM »

Assuming that these results hold up, looks like an absolute lottery in the Senate. Who knows what the Motoring Enthusiasts and the Sport Party stand for? How will the LNP deal with personality cults and libertarians? Will be very interesting. LNP will be happier having a minor right majority, but still....

Why did Tasmania swing so hard away from the ALP compared to the rest of the country? Is there some sort of government policy that's particularly unpopular in Tasmania right now?

Obviously their attempts to legalise gay marriage and abortion-on-demand haven't gone down well.
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« Reply #184 on: September 07, 2013, 06:53:51 PM »

Results in the Hunter are interesting: decent (given everything) Labor results in three seats out of four, the exception being Hunter. Which has since the 1980s been a very rural seat with a lot of natural Nationals territory, but personal votes eventually made that look to be not so.

As sort-of-expected double digit swings at that end (Muswellbrook, Singleton, etc) of the division, a rather more mixed picture elsewhere. Did the Nationals actually try for once?
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« Reply #185 on: September 07, 2013, 07:07:27 PM »

Well, at least Burnie still voted Labor.
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« Reply #186 on: September 07, 2013, 07:30:17 PM »

How did Paul Hogan vote?
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« Reply #187 on: September 07, 2013, 08:14:10 PM »

Results in the Hunter are interesting: decent (given everything) Labor results in three seats out of four, the exception being Hunter. Which has since the 1980s been a very rural seat with a lot of natural Nationals territory, but personal votes eventually made that look to be not so.

As sort-of-expected double digit swings at that end (Muswellbrook, Singleton, etc) of the division, a rather more mixed picture elsewhere. Did the Nationals actually try for once?

Yes, very much so.
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« Reply #188 on: September 07, 2013, 08:27:31 PM »

Why did Tasmania swing so hard away from the ALP compared to the rest of the country? Is there some sort of government policy that's particularly unpopular in Tasmania right now?

Obviously their attempts to legalise gay marriage and abortion-on-demand haven't gone down well.

The degree to which people DON'T CARE about that cannot be described - it's the economy, Tasmania is really struggling and the ALP has been in power for 15 years ... people are frustrated and venting at anything ALP.

As usual you're looking through your own backward view...
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« Reply #189 on: September 07, 2013, 08:35:01 PM »

Weird results for the Greens. In NSW it looks like they got flogged - big swing against them in Sydney, falling to 3rd in Grayndler....., but in Victoria it looks like they broke even - held onto Melbourne, would've won Batman most likely under 2010 preferences....
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« Reply #190 on: September 07, 2013, 08:45:25 PM »
« Edited: September 07, 2013, 08:51:09 PM by Fmr. President & Senator Polnut »

The swings are really interesting - the swing will be under 1% in QLD, 3% in NSW... Al's point about looking where the swings were before ... which was my reasoning for Lingiari holding, was important wherever the ALP over-performed in 2010, they got walloped.

In the ACT, the Greens also got hit, their Senate primary vote slipped by almost 2%, the primary in Fraser was hit by more than 5% (both the ALP and Libs lost 1% of their primary) and they lost nearly 6.5% in Canberra...
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« Reply #191 on: September 07, 2013, 08:46:35 PM »

Weird results for the Greens. In NSW it looks like they got flogged - big swing against them in Sydney, falling to 3rd in Grayndler....., but in Victoria it looks like they broke even - held onto Melbourne, would've won Batman most likely under 2010 preferences....

Also see Wills.
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« Reply #192 on: September 07, 2013, 08:49:36 PM »

The swings are really interesting - the swing will be under 1% in QLD, 3% in NSW... Al's point about looking where the swings were before ... which was my reasoning for Lingiari holding, was important wherever the ALP over-performed in 2010, they got walloped
Indeed. This feels like an aligning election, despite the change of government.
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« Reply #193 on: September 07, 2013, 08:50:49 PM »

2013 Australian Federal Election - Primary Votes
Interim edition, obviously...

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« Reply #194 on: September 07, 2013, 08:57:10 PM »

All I see is an X.
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« Reply #195 on: September 07, 2013, 09:14:54 PM »

2013 Australian Federal Election - Primary Votes
Interim edition, obviously...



That's odd, it's showing up for me... it's in the Gallery. Will no doubt show up as an X when I update it down the track, but should still work for the time being.
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« Reply #196 on: September 07, 2013, 09:17:15 PM »

Both working now. Looks fantabulous as usual. Grin
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« Reply #197 on: September 07, 2013, 09:21:21 PM »

Do we have any statewide 2PP numbers yet?
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« Reply #198 on: September 07, 2013, 09:24:14 PM »
« Edited: September 07, 2013, 10:30:37 PM by I Can't Get That Sound You Make, Out Of My Head »

Current pendulum:

ALP:

ALP Very Safe

Wills   21.3%   ALP
Grayndler   20.6%   ALP

ALP Safe

Fowler   18.3%   ALP
Gellibrand   16.8%   ALP
Gorton   16.8%   ALP
Sydney   15.5%   ALP
Scullin   15.0%   ALP
Port Adelaide   14.2%   ALP
Calwell   14.2%   ALP
Fraser   13.1%   ALP
Blaxland    12.3%   ALP
Maribyrnong   12.2%   ALP
Lalor   12.1%   ALP
Batman   11.8%   ALP^
Chifley   11.1%   ALP
Holt   10.9%   ALP
Kingston   10.3%   ALP
Cunningham   10.1%   ALP

ALP Fairly Safe

Charlton   9.9%   ALP
Newcastle    9.4%   ALP
Hotham   8.5%   ALP
Throsby   8.1%   ALP
Watson   7.5%   ALP
Corio   7.3%   ALP
Canberra   7.0%   ALP
Shortland   6.9%   ALP
McMahon   5.9%   ALP
Rankin   5.8%   ALP
Blair   5.6%   ALP
Makin   5.4%   ALP
Melbourne Ports   5.3%   ALP
Franklin   5.1%   ALP
Perth   5.0%   ALP

ALP Marginal

Ballarat   4.5%   ALP
Isaacs   4.2%   ALP
Greenway   3.9%   ALP
Hunter   3.9%   ALP
Oxley   3.9%   ALP
Fremantle   3.8%   ALP
Wakefield   3.6%   ALP
Kingsford Smith    3.2%   ALP
Griffith   3.1%   ALP
Richmond   3.0%   ALP
Jagajaga   3.0%   ALP
Werriwa   2.8%   ALP
Brand   2.7%   ALP
Adelaide   2.6%   ALP
Chisholm   2.5%   ALP
Moreton   2.4%   ALP
Bendigo   1.8%   ALP
Lingiari   1.6%   ALP
Bruce   1.5%   ALP
Lilley   1.1%   ALP+
Parramatta   0.8%   ALP*
Barton   0.1%   ALP*
Capricornia   0.1%   ALP*
McEwen   0.1%   ALP*

LNP:


LNP Very Safe

Mallee   24.0%   NAT#
Mitchell   22.5%   LIB
Parkes   21.8%   NAT
Bradfield   21.2%   LIB
New England    21.2%   NAT
Murray   21.2%   LIB
Riverina   20.9%   NAT
Maranoa   20.8%   LNP

LNP Safe

Berowra   19.0%   LIB
Mackellar   18.9%   LIB
Moncrieff   18.4%   LNP
Wentworth   17.6%   LIB
Curtin   17.6%   LNP
Cook   16.8%   LIB
Barker   16.6%   LIB
Farrer   16.2%   LIB
Gippsland   16.2%   NAT
Calare   16.1%   NAT
North Sydney    15.6%   LIB
Warringah   15.5%   LIB
Groom   15.5%   LNP
Lyne   15.1%   NAT
Tangney   14.6%   LIB
Fadden   14.5%   LNP
Menzies   13.7%   LIB
McPherson   13.0%   LNP
Wide Bay   12.7%   LNP
Grey   12.7%   LIB
Mayo   12.5%   LIB
Moore   12.3%   LIB
McMillan   11.8%   LIB
Canning   11.8%   LIB
Forrest   11.8%   LIB
Cowper   11.7%   NAT
Wright   11.6%   LNP
Hume   11.4%   LIB
Macarthur   11.4%   LIB
Hughes   11.2%   LIB
Flinders   11.0%   LIB
Goldstein   10.5%   LIB
Kooyong   10.4%   LIB
Sturt   10.0%   LIB
Stirling   10.0%   LIB

LNP Fairly Safe

Wannon   9.8%   LIB
Paterson   9.7%   LIB
Higgins   9.7%   LIB
Bowman   9.0%   LNP
Hinkler   8.9%   LNP
Pearce   8.5%   LIB
Ryan   8.0%   LNP
Aston   8.0%   LIB
Fisher   7.9%   LNP#
Bennelong   7.6%   LIB
Dawson   7.5%   LNP
Boothby   7.2%   LIB
Cowan   7.2%   LIB
Longman   6.6%   LNP
Casey   6.6%   LIB
Dickson   6.2%   LNP
Swan   5.8%   LIB
Herbert   5.7%   LNP
Leichhardt   5.4%   LNP

LNP Marginal


Flynn   4.7%   LNP
Macquarie   4.6%   LIB
Dunkley   4.6%   LIB
Hasluck   4.5%   LIB
Brisbane   4.3%   LIB
Durack   4.2%   LIB^

*Swing required for Labor to win 2016*

Forde   4.1%   LNP
Bass   3.8%   LIB
Corangamite   3.7%   LIB
La Trobe   3.4%   LIB
Bonner   3.1%   LNP
Lindsay   2.8%   LIB
Page   2.7%   NAT
Gilmore   2.5%   LIB
Deakin   2.4%   LIB
Braddon   2.2%   LIB
Robertson   2.1%   LIB
Banks   1.9%   LIB
Hindmarsh   1.9%   LIB
Indi   1.8%   LIB^*
Lyons   1.2%   LIB+
O'Connor   1.2%   LIB^+
Solomon   1.0%   CLP*
Dobell   0.6%   LIB*
Petrie   0.5%   LNP*
Reid   0.4%   LIB*
Eden-Monaro   0.2%   LIB*
      
Other:

Other Safe

Denison   15.2%   IND

Other Fairly Safe

Melbourne   5.0%   GRN

Other Marginal

Kennedy   2.5%   KAP
Fairfax   0.9%   PUP*

Notes:

* Indicates "in doubt" (according to ABC's computer)
+ Indicates "likely" (i.e. probably safe) (according to ABC's computer)
^ Indicates a "non-traditional contest"
Bold indicates a seat changing hands.

Seats with #:

Mallee: Although the Nationals are heavily leading on a 2PP with Labor, the Liberals have come second, and it was not counted that way.
Fisher: PUP are only 3 points behind the ALP, and the LNP primary vote is on 43%, so it is theoretically possible that if they overtake the ALP the PUP will win.

Any mistakes? Anything I've missed?
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« Reply #199 on: September 07, 2013, 09:26:48 PM »

Statewide 2PP is on the AEC website

Presently working on the 2CP Swing map.
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