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anvi
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« on: March 19, 2015, 08:58:46 AM »

It is amazing how clueless American liberals are. The US has higher per capita spending per beneficiary, compared to other OECD nations. Yet, according to left-wing Democrats, the socioeconomic catastrophe and lack of benefits caused by American spendthrift is actually the work of naughty neoliberals, defense-hawks, and heartless budget cuts.

The last OECD study I looked at actually had a few countries (Luxembourg, Norway) with higher public spending per beneficiary than the U.S.  But, given the relatively low percentage of the populous who benefit from public spending in the U.S. compared to other countries, the reason the per-capita spending is so high here is because health care costs themselves are so high.  Americans go for physician visits and hospital stays less than citizens of other OECD countries because of high tech costs, general lack of cost inflation control measures--and less coverage--here.  And still, for all that spending and tech, we get less satisfactory health outcomes here in lots of important measures than other countries anyway.  Importantly, these other countries have broader-based tax systems than the U.S. too, which makes spending on beneficiaries easier to finance.  The American left is, in my view, often blind to the fact that, in order to get better broad-based benefits, everyone, and not just the top few percent of income earners, needs to pay more taxes.  But we also need to contain costs much more effectively than we do, and if we're not willing to do that, which we've proven that we're not, than any framework we come up with will bankrupt us in the long, or not-so-long, run.
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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2015, 12:03:51 AM »

When one considers federal taxes, provincial taxes and VATs in counties with either "single payer" or Bismarck systems, no, the U.S. does not have a wide tax base.
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