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BigSkyBob
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« on: July 27, 2012, 01:05:50 AM »

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/19113164/fox-2-exclusive-polling-study-14th-congressional-district

Can we put to rest the argument that lowering the Black percentage of VRA districts to the low 40's wouldn't place those Black incumbents in danger?
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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2012, 10:14:03 AM »

For the umpteenth time, the race of the elected official does not determine whether a district has "regressed"or not. We've been through this every previous time this has come up. Note that according to this poll, Clarke gets less than half the votes of the African Americans surveyed.

1) For the umpteenth time, the claim I read in this forum is that regressing a Black VRA district to the low forties would not result in Black incumbents losing. Can we acknowledge that that claim simply isn't based on fact? The advocates of that claim hand-waved away the democratic primary in favor of solely analyzing the general. In the real world, minority Democrats are being beaten by White Democrats when their districts are being regressed to the low fifties.

2) The claim that I have read here is that when a minority carries his minority's vote, but a White beats him based on White support, something untowards has happened. [I've even read the claim being made that Blacks voting against the "preferred" Hispanic is equally untowards.]  It seems that Clarke will  be the "preferred" candidate of the Black electorate, while Peters will be the "preferred" candidate of the White electorate. That is the test I've read being asserted for what is "regression."

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BigSkyBob
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2012, 12:27:24 PM »

In this case I've heard the black Detroit establishment wants Clarke out and Peters in, under the idea that peters will run elsewhere and the establishment can place their own guy in the seat.

In 2022?
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BigSkyBob
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2012, 12:45:25 PM »

I do wish, at least for the sake of Ohio maps, that districts in the upper-40s in black VAP could be assumed protected under the VRA. Mainly I'm just sick of looking at that hideous Cleveland-to-Akron thing that was drawn to stop a lawsuit.

Dennis in 2014!

I don't think the Cleveland to Akron thing was required by the VRA. It was merely not prohibited by it.
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BigSkyBob
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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2012, 07:06:19 PM »

In this case I've heard the black Detroit establishment wants Clarke out and Peters in, under the idea that peters will run elsewhere and the establishment can place their own guy in the seat.

In 2022?

2014. By 2022 the 4 Detroit bordering districts will likely be collapsed into 3.

Where will Peters run in 2014?
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