Who won the first debate?

[riceowl]

Clinton clearly won, but it went as expected. No Trump supporter will start supporting Clinton, no Clinton supporter will start supporting Trump.

Trump had some shockers that the Clinton campaign can work with (taxes, flirtations with the truth). I gritted my teeth a bit in Clinton's answers for trade and was preparing to grit for the emails...but she moved him off that topic effectively.

I don't know. I think the election is clear, I think the debate makes the choice very clear, but I also think that a lot of the voters just don't really seem to care about reality.

Oh yeah, this also means she has to really rock the next two debates. Expectation game couldn't be lower for him now.