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« on: October 25, 2015, 04:24:19 PM »

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/10/25/ben-carson-abortion-rape-incest-roe-wade/74585040/
It's perfectly understandable that Ben Carson is not the most popular candidate. But he will lose all his support very soon if he keeps that ultra-conservative agenda. Seriously, abortion is a granted right of every woman. And no matter how conservative a person is he should understand that if he wants to become the president he must do the things people want from him.
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2015, 04:34:43 PM »

Fun fact: Just about every Republican believes this, because the terrible crimes committed don't justify murder, which is even worse.
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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2015, 04:38:21 PM »

Fun fact: Just about every Republican believes this, because the terrible crimes committed don't justify murder, which is even worse.

But yet they support the death penalty regardless of how many innocent people the government murders.
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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2015, 04:47:25 PM »

Fun fact: Just about every Republican believes this, because the terrible crimes committed don't justify murder, which is even worse.

But yet they support the death penalty regardless of how many innocent people the government murders.

Not all of us have that line of thinking, but the ones who do find that "that life" has earned that punishment while the child has done nothing wrong itself. Definitely a viable perspective though I don't think anyone can "earn" that type of punishment.
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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2015, 05:00:45 PM »

Fun fact: Just about every Republican believes this, because the terrible crimes committed don't justify murder, which is even worse.
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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2015, 06:07:18 PM »

Fun fact: Just about every Republican believes this, because the terrible crimes committed don't justify murder, which is even worse.

That is just simply NOT true.  First of all (as I linked below), 27% of Republicans are pro-choice, so obviously those people do not believe that.  And according to a CNN poll (the second link, about half way down), 76% of Republicans think abortions should be legal "when the pregnancy was caused by rape or incest."

So yeah, you're just like completely wrong.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/170249/split-abortion-pro-choice-pro-life.aspx

http://www.pollingreport.com/abortion.htm
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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2015, 06:26:06 PM »

Fun fact: Just about every Republican believes this, because the terrible crimes committed don't justify murder, which is even worse.

What? Polls consistently show that less than half of Republicans think abortion should be illegal for rape victims.
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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2015, 07:10:57 PM »

Fun fact: Just about every Republican believes this, because the terrible crimes committed don't justify murder, which is even worse.

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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2015, 09:00:39 PM »

I seriously don't understand how a pro-life person can actually support rape/incest exceptions as anything other than a compromise.
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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2015, 09:04:21 PM »

I seriously don't understand how a pro-life person can actually support rape/incest exceptions as anything other than a compromise.

Forcing a woman who has been raped to give birth seems evil, no?  And, mutant babies, not a good idea, no?
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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2015, 09:06:09 PM »

I seriously don't understand how a pro-life person can actually support rape/incest exceptions as anything other than a compromise.

Forcing a woman who has been raped to give birth seems evil, no?  And, mutant babies, not a good idea, no?

More Republican voters, you see.
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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2015, 09:09:00 PM »

I seriously don't understand how a pro-life person can actually support rape/incest exceptions as anything other than a compromise.

Forcing a woman who has been raped to give birth seems evil, no?  And, mutant babies, not a good idea, no?

For a pro-life person, you'd be literally punishing the child for the sins of their father. I'm pretty sure western law has rendered that mode of thinking quite obsolete, and for good reason. Killing them would be far more evil than forcing the mother to endure some possible temporary trauma.

As I said, this is provided you're a pro-life person who believes an unborn child is a person. If you don't believe that, then it would seem harsh, yes. If you do, then your assertion seems even moreso.
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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2015, 09:10:09 PM »

I seriously don't understand how a pro-life person can actually support rape/incest exceptions as anything other than a compromise.
It isn't anything other than a compromise, that's the point.
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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2015, 09:12:33 PM »

I seriously don't understand how a pro-life person can actually support rape/incest exceptions as anything other than a compromise.

Some anti-abortion people just find the idea of abortion uncomfortable or "icky" without believing a fetus is the same thing as a person. Those people might be even more uncomfortable with rape victims being forced to bring the fetus to term than they are with aborting it.
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« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2015, 09:39:25 PM »

I seriously don't understand how a pro-life person can actually support rape/incest exceptions as anything other than a compromise.

Forcing a woman who has been raped to give birth seems evil, no?  And, mutant babies, not a good idea, no?

More Republican voters, you see.

Totally, bro.
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« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2015, 10:09:13 PM »

Clinton would crush this clown.
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« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2015, 02:10:23 AM »

I seriously don't understand how a pro-life person can actually support rape/incest exceptions as anything other than a compromise.

Forcing a woman who has been raped to give birth seems evil, no?  And, mutant babies, not a good idea, no?

For a pro-life person, you'd be literally punishing the child for the sins of their father. I'm pretty sure western law has rendered that mode of thinking quite obsolete, and for good reason. Killing them would be far more evil than forcing the mother to endure some possible temporary trauma.

As I said, this is provided you're a pro-life person who believes an unborn child is a person. If you don't believe that, then it would seem harsh, yes. If you do, then your assertion seems even moreso.

There are in fact plenty of pro-choice activists who argue that even if the fetus is a person with a right to life, the mother’s right to control her body trumps that right, and so abortion should be legal regardless of your opinion of the status of the fetus.  See the “violinist” thought experiment:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Defense_of_Abortion

A more mild version of that line of thinking could be constructed to defend a “pro-life with rape exception” position: You may think that if the mother has engaged in sexual intercourse knowing that it may lead to pregnancy, that implies her taking responsibility for any life that may be created as a consequence of her freely chosen decision to have sex.  But that if the conception came about via rape, then she never made that choice, and so her right to control her body then trumps the right to life of the fetus.
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« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2015, 02:27:21 AM »

Fun fact: Just about every Republican believes this, because the terrible crimes committed don't justify murder, which is even worse.

Do you even know the definition of the word fact?
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« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2015, 02:28:49 AM »

Carson really pushing for that woman vote.
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