The Federalist Party of Atlasia: February 2014 Convention

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

X North Carolina Yankee

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Ballot for President/Vice Presidential Nomination:
[ 1 ] Duke/Matt from VT*
[ 2 ] Reaganfan/Spiral

Ballot for Mideast Senate Nomination:
[ 2 ] JCL
[ 1 ] DC Al Fine*

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Midwest Senate Seat:
[ ] TNF (Labor)
[X] Lumine (Progressive Union)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Yes, considering we are doing our best to get our people out, pushing them over the edge with PMs about leadership elections might cost votes. A lot people are getting contacted by several different candidates right now and surrogates working on behalf of the candidates and I have learned through numerous bad experiences that you never know who will be pushed over the edge and do something crazy (like go out and vote for other party or something. It has happened).

So yeah, long story short, I am waiting until tomorrow.

There are several people working on turnout for several races, beyond the candidates also so I don't expect a gap of effort on GOTV. It does appear though that there is a severe problem with effectiveness that may be the effect of poor advance coordination or possibly the loss of a familiar face (Maxwell/Tmth) who they are used to being contacted by. That needs to be addressed, especially in advance of the special election next weekend. 

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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What is the precedent for "ample time"?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Goldwater appears to have given 48 hours in August, with no specific time given in December.

I am therefore going to give 48 hours for nominations/declarations for Chairman and Vice Chairman of the Federalist Party.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

If Hagrid thinks it is appropriate for me to do it under my current authority, then I will start it in a few minutes.


Though we will be starting the leadership elections tomorro night and that might get confusing.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Maybe run them side-by-side? It's a strange situation...

If I wait until Wednesday, the endorsement would not finish until after the election is started at the earliest unless we do a 24 hour vote and for a 40 vote party that is difficult. Leadership elections last 72 hours from my reading of the bylaws also. And so in various ways side by side doesn't work very well.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I am including all the declared candidates since we don't have time for a nomination/declaration period for this.

At-Large Senate Seat #2 (Tmthforu94 seat) Special Election Endorsement Vote

Official ballot:
[ ] Adam Griffin (LAB-DE)
[ ] Cincinnatus (I-NY)
[ ] Lumine (PRO-MT)
[ ] Poirot (I-NY)

This vote will last for 48 hours.

Keep in mind that the Leadership election will be tomorrow night and will run for 72 hours from then. So keep them clearly seperated and indicate what you are voting for.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I am going to need an IRV calculator since I don't know how to count it.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Which position?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

    I graciously accept the nominations made by two of our esteemed members of this Party to be its Chairman and will therefore declare for the position. I had briefly considered running to be chairman twice before but ultimately decided that it wasn’t the right time. I think the record has proven that the selections instead were correct as we achieved great successes under their leadership. Now the Party is facing a challenge different from before, a challenge that I feel uniquely equipped to address from my past experience and skills.
   
   Today, the Federalist Party is divided, not as much as some of our opponents would like to believe but it is undeniably that we have suffered recently with the loss of two great members of our Party in circumstances that could have easily been avoided. Many members of our party on both sides of the spectrum are angry at the other side and feel they are not being listened to. Members of other Parties on both sides of the spectrum worry about us taking a direction that they will find to be hostile to their views and/or express a lack of confidence in the Party’s long term prospects. Frankly, I find this stunning that the Party with the most membership in the game could be left in the position that it is.
   
   We must remember that when differences occur on strategy and approach, we are generally aiming for the same things and that regardless of which approach is taken, the objective must be paramount and we must disagree respectfully thus so as to welcome differing opinions and diverse views on Party strategy. It is therefore imperative that all members be engaged and are likewise informed about the decisions and strategic decisions to be made and why. One of the biggest failures in the past was to assume everyone was on board, when no effort had been made to ascertain such. Instead we must interact honestly with our members and thus encourage them to deal in good faith and respect the decisions reached for the good of the party. We must welcome all members of our party and treat them with dignity and mutual respect regardless of whether or not such is shared outside this party. We as a party must remember that whilst others may lose site of what is the primary driver of this game, we must instead remember it is our diverse membership and that includes those we disagree with. This also means that we need to ease the personality driven factionalism, the residue of which still exists throughout all Atlasia and hinders our current priorities as well as disadvantages our candidates.
   
   As a Party, we must have a vision for how to govern the nation in way that we can all agree on and promote aggressively and of course knowledgeably to independents and members of third parties so as to facilitate its enactment into law. Once again, these ideas must necessarily involve as many members of the Party in their selection as possible and incorporate our core beliefs. The Party must also correct our lapses in election strategy and  get out to vote so as to ensure that all members are informed and available to vote when the elections occur and that we are playing to win everywhere. Lapses in this area have hindered our ability to carry critical races and left us critically short on various votes, which we would have preferred, I would presume, by most members to have gone the other way.

   We face challenges, but with strong leadership and critical changes in way we operate, we can fix these problems and proceed forth a stronger, more effective and more unified party with fewer disappointments. A long time ago, it fell to me to lead another Conservative Party from not just division but also certain death, to a new dawn and together with a core group of great people we succeeded. Many of those people are in this Party and know what was at stake then and the importance of what we achieved. Today, we too have much at stake, and though the challenges are less severe, they are just as critical for us to address and move forward, together.
   
   Many of you have known me for a long time, but some are newer and thus may not know me as well. What most know is that I am the longest serving Senator in the history of Atlasia and that I led the RPP for two years until it was tore out from under me. Many should be familiar with the fact that I have fought to preserve Regions for almost five years. Fundamentally, I think Government exists to protect the freedom and liberty of the people and should seek to not impede those save where necessary to achieve their preservation. I am Pro-Life and I was also one of only two Senators to cast votes against the enactment of the so-called Fritzcare program. While I stick to my core values, I have never hesitated to cooperate or work with others to achieve common objectives and goals. I know from experience the importance of working together and making sure that things function. I spent years working to extract functionality of the Senate rules, and more importantly, in real life I have experienced firsthand that longing just for things to work and with common sense at that.

   I thus respectfully ask for your vote as your Chairman. Together we can reform, unify and strengthen the party so that its members feel proud to be part of it and are listened to, to fix our deficiencies in election mechanics and to promote and facilitate the enactment of an agenda of ideas that will enrich and benefit the people of Atlasia as a country and as a game. I look forward to working with you the members to achieve this success.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Yankee shouldn't be allowed to chair a party unless bgwah comes back.

I never asked for the duopoly of 2011 and did everything in my power to prevent it coming to the fore. I shouldn't be prohibited from engaging in this game a certain way simiply because I just happened to be the last RPP chair, the left couldn't forgive itself for allowing Tmth to win the Presidency and the Populares had lost interest. Not to mention the fact that we seem to have a similar Party system right now, one which you sought last summer if I recall.

Duke was TPP Chair and not only a former RPP Chair, he actually was part of founding the RPP, more then I can say. Dallasfan chaired the Populares party in that period, and just finished up a term as DR Chair. If Jbrase had succeeded in destroying us in 2010, would he be so relegated to the chains of the dungeon? Nobody insisted that they be tied to bgwah for eternity like some kind of condemned prisoner. Its been two years. Was 2011 so damn horrible as to condemn me from not being able to chair a party ever again?  

I am fairly certain the current crop of leaders in Labor are perfectly capable of surviving me chairing a Party.

Can someone please give me a [4] on their ballot, just to see if they get expelled in the aftermath?

Why do you want a 4? Why not ask for a 1? Be bold! After all, you were bold to even run for this office instead of taking it like a good boy and becoming my GM.

Even I know my limitations, despite having a penchant for running in February special at-large Senate elections where I'm likely to lose. It'd be nice to have some cross-party support, but unfortunately, the places next to my name on the Federalist ballots cast this far are remarkably similar to the Federalists' platform and public agenda: completely devoid of substance.

Sure, I'll give you a four, if I can make a decision on who should be one.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Federalist Party Leadership Elections Feb 27-Mar 2nd

Official Ballot:
Party Chairman:
[  ] Devin (F-WA)
[  ] North Carolina Yankee (F-NC)

Vice Chairman:
[  ] Dereich (F-MS)
[  ] JohanusCalvinusLibertas (F-IN)

The election shall begin immediately and end 72 hours from now.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I am fairly certain the current crop of leaders in Labor are perfectly capable of surviving me chairing a Party.

This is the first time that I can recall the two major parties' officer elections occurring within the same week or so of one another. Do you guys just elect someone and allow them to serve until they no longer want to, or are there regularly scheduled elections? If the latter, you should sync up with us.

I posted the relevent bylaw section two pages ago. It is also on the wiki. I beleive it is regularly scheduled. IF there is a benefit to us doing so, then we will look into synchronizing them but I think the main priority is that it be in the convention and that it not interfere with the endorseement votes for the elections, which are time sensitive as well as to avoid confusion like with this current nomination vote for the special occuring side by side with the leadership election.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Remember, the Senate endorsement vote is still ongoing and will end later tonight. If you haven't voted on that, please do so as soon as possible.

I am reposting the ballots in this post:

I am including all the declared candidates since we don't have time for a nomination/declaration period for this.

At-Large Senate Seat #2 (Tmthforu94 seat) Special Election Endorsement Vote

Official ballot:
[ ] Adam Griffin (LAB-DE)
[ ] Cincinnatus (I-NY)
[ ] Lumine (PRO-MT)
[ ] Poirot (I-NY)

This vote will last for 48 hours.

Keep in mind that the Leadership election will be tomorrow night and will run for 72 hours from then. So keep them clearly seperated and indicate what you are voting for.

Federalist Party Leadership Elections Feb 27-Mar 2nd

Official Ballot:
Party Chairman:
[  ] Devin (F-WA)
[  ] North Carolina Yankee (F-NC)

Vice Chairman:
[  ] Dereich (F-MS)
[  ] JohanusCalvinusLibertas (F-IN)

The election shall begin immediately and end 72 hours from now.

Turnout So Far:
Goldwater - Both
Hagrid - Senate only
TJ - both
Spamage -both
Devin - both
Dereich - Senate only
PiT - both
Cris - Senate only
JCL - Senate Only
Ben - both
Tmth - leadership only
Miles - both
Pingvin - both
Duke - Leadership only
Matt - both
MasterJedi - Leadership only
Devin - both

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Remember, the Senate endorsement vote is still ongoing and will end later tonight. If you haven't voted on that, please do so as soon as possible.

I am reposting the ballots in this post:

I am including all the declared candidates since we don't have time for a nomination/declaration period for this.

At-Large Senate Seat #2 (Tmthforu94 seat) Special Election Endorsement Vote

Official ballot:
[ ] Adam Griffin (LAB-DE)
[ ] Cincinnatus (I-NY)
[ ] Lumine (PRO-MT)
[ ] Poirot (I-NY)

This vote will last for 48 hours.

Keep in mind that the Leadership election will be tomorrow night and will run for 72 hours from then. So keep them clearly seperated and indicate what you are voting for.

Federalist Party Leadership Elections Feb 27-Mar 2nd

Official Ballot:
Party Chairman:
[  ] Devin (F-WA)
[  ] North Carolina Yankee (F-NC)

Vice Chairman:
[  ] Dereich (F-MS)
[  ] JohanusCalvinusLibertas (F-IN)

The election shall begin immediately and end 72 hours from now.

Turnout So Far:
Goldwater - Both
Hagrid - Senate only
TJ - both
Spamage -both
Devin - both
Dereich - Senate only
PiT - both
Cris - Senate only
JCL - Senate Only
Ben - both
Tmth - leadership only
Miles - both
Pingvin - both
Duke - Leadership only
Matt - both
MasterJedi - both
Devin - both
Rooney -leadership only
DC al Fine - both

I think the results currently are NC Yankee 14-0  Dereich 8-6  and Lumine by ah a lot.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Lumine is in the lead 12-4 I think with about two hours remaining.

Official ballot:
[ 4 ] Adam Griffin (LAB-DE)
[ 1 ] Cincinnatus (I-NY)
[ 2 ] Lumine (PRO-MT)
[ 3 ] Poirot (I-NY)


Make that 12-5.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

When is the Labor Party going to stop running away with blatantly false narratives?


Lumine got in, JCL dropped out and endorsed him. No Federalist candidate, hence the need for an endorsement vote. Something, which JCL pushed for as well I recall.

This especially blatant, BECAUSE IT ALL WAS POSTED PUBLICALLY IN THIS THREAD, MR. X. 

Please read before guessing next time.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Another interesting observation I just made is that you never denied that I was right in saying that the Federalist vision for game reform is to disrupt efforts at reform instead of offering its own vision.

That has been painfully obvious for some time. I'm wholly convinced that they don't even care about winning anymore, so long as they stop what I can only imagine from their perspective is an "unstoppable threat" to the game. Otherwise, I wouldn't still be going about discussing the utter lack of ideas or vision of said entity; apparently fresh ideas can't change the trajectory in their eyes and they've just given up.

Or Perhaps it is that Labor has run the well dry and is increasingly relying on pushing some rather far left ideas and then covering that fact when they are thus rejected with references and vague cannotions seeking to fan the flames of built up real life political resentments in order to attain the support of people who would be very unlikely to support such proposals directly.

Maybe that is the real problem. Sooner or later you run out of proposals or problems to fix at the Federal Level and soon you have a boring game where there is nothing left to be fought over, particuarly at the lower levels. So we contract and abolish them I suppose, having them been so undermined either intentionally or not, no? And then when the same thing spreads to the Federal level, then what, restart time?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

And on that note, Adam, you wouldn't by any change support Mr. X's Regional Exemption Act?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Labors problem on game reform is that it is too compartmentalized or siloed perhaps. It approaches it in isolation from the other issues and expects to just past something to fix it. That isn't how it works. You have to foment activity and I would be happy to have a debate on that with you.

Which issues are you willing to leave within the responsbility of Regional Governments so as to attract interest and activity?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Another interesting observation I just made is that you never denied that I was right in saying that the Federalist vision for game reform is to disrupt efforts at reform instead of offering its own vision.

That has been painfully obvious for some time. I'm wholly convinced that they don't even care about winning anymore, so long as they stop what I can only imagine from their perspective is an "unstoppable threat" to the game. Otherwise, I wouldn't still be going about discussing the utter lack of ideas or vision of said entity; apparently fresh ideas can't change the trajectory in their eyes and they've just given up.

Or Perhaps it is that Labor has run the well dry and is increasingly relying on pushing some rather far left ideas and then covering that fact when they are thus rejected with references and vague cannotions seeking to fan the flames of built up real life political resentments in order to attain the support of people who would be very unlikely to support such proposals directly.

Maybe that is the real problem. Sooner or later you run out of proposals or problems to fix at the Federal Level and soon you have a boring game where there is nothing left to be fought over, particuarly at the lower levels. So we contract and abolish them I suppose, having them been so undermined either intentionally or not, no? And then when the same thing spreads to the Federal level, then what, restart time?

Your syntax often throws me off, but are you really suggesting that the Federalist Party hasn't given us enough to be upset about with its own combination of policy-related inactions and spiteful actions, and that instead we're pulling real-life axes to grind into the game? That the left has or will be so successful that we'll run out of things to do? Do you believe we've reached that point, and that's the reason we now have so many "rather far left ideas"?

I think X was primarily being facetious at first, and you're getting too riled up at the moment. The real stresses of being a Chair haven't even begun to kick in yet, Yankee, so relax.

What are you talking about? The defeat of consolidation? I suggest you look back through the vote booths and see all the moderates and leftists who defected and helped killed it as well, driving it to as low as 40% in the nationwide vote. I realize you weren't here so maybe you overlooked that fact. What inactions are you talking about? We endorsed Duke in Ocotber and helped elect him even whilst running on the Duke Plan. In fact he got more Federalists then than he did in February as I recall.

What the heck else would describe labeling as gridlock us blocking nationalization of various industries and union run corporate boards. Which compromises half of all that was killed in this Senate session, a session you reviled for being gridlocked, no?

I beleive you will eventually, yes. Which is why I am on board with limited restarts in certain policy areas if necessary. Been on board wtih that for months.

The stresses of chairing a party, oh no, what ever will I do? I am so in over my head I have made such a grave mistake. It not like I...had to lead a Party all thoguht dead to a revival, staved off an insurgent Party seeking to supplant us first under the leadership of a certain someone from California and then someone from Texas (whose plan wasn't that different from yours actually regarding the IDS and the fact that it is called such is a testament to his success partially), attract the membership of a bunch of centrists who just the year prior the party had angered to no end (with no direct attempts to woo them even either at least not by me), deal with a bitter personal divide within the Party that nearly ripped us apart just as we had regained our footing, contend with a Presidential scandal, and watch as it all got ripped apart because some people got board with the duopoly and all that before you even joined this game...oh wait...

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

So is that to say it is no go on either Regional Exemption or answering what issues should remain solely with the Regions so as to attract activity?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

You're sperging too much here, Yankee - save your energy. I'll just address this:

The stresses of chairing a party, oh no, what ever will I do? I am so in over my head I have made such a grave mistake. It not like I...had to lead a Party all thoguht dead to a revival, staved off an insurgent Party seeking to supplant us first under the leadership of a certain someone from California and then someone from Texas (whose plan wasn't that different from yours actually regarding the IDS and the fact that it is called such is a testament to his success partially), attract the membership of a bunch of centrists who just the year prior the party had angered to no end (with no direct attempts to woo them even either at least not by me), deal with a bitter personal divide within the Party that nearly ripped us apart just as we had regained our footing, contend with a Presidential scandal, and watch as it all got ripped apart because some people got board with the duopoly and all that before you even joined this game...oh wait...

Yes, I'm familiar with all of that through various accounts, which is why I said what I said.

I am pleased to see that Labor's skills at changing the subject when it gets a little to hot. We have gone from distrupting things, to Game Reform and now my reputation deserved or otherwise as a legendary Party chairman. I can only imagine what comes next.

How about this...