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« on: June 29, 2016, 05:05:46 PM »

Can someone well-versed in Labour politics explain to me the difference between the Soft Right and the Soft Left? I think I understand the fault lines between the soft and hard left, and between the soft right and the Kendallesque Blair fanatics, but what's really the barrier between Labour left and right? Is it rooted in specific issues, or is it mostly cultural or identity-based?

It's very identity based and Al explains it better, but the soft left are basically those activists who voted for Foot against Hattersley, but banked Healey against the challenge by Benn. They are left aligned but concerned about unity. Most of the membership are made up of these types.

There are two branches of non-Blairite right of the party. The union traditionalists - who are 'right' in the sense they are proudly patriotic, support the bomb and often are mildly eurosceptic, but often still are enthusiastic about central planning and sceptical of privatisation. Then there are the large amount of more technocratic people who don't tend to be factional, but were supported by Brown.

The leadership contest offered us a good selection of the Right. Kendall was running in pure Blairism, a fairly masochostic move (even though she weirdly decided to foreground her most divisive stances and background stuff like German style elected boardrooms.) Cooper was running in centrist technocratic way. burnham was of the Old Right, but crossed over to try and appeal to the soft left (as Ed M did before him).
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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2016, 06:06:46 AM »

Things you shouldn't say if you're an under fire leader:


 "Our Jewish friends are no more responsible for the actions of Israel than our Muslim friends are for the self-styled Islamic State"
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2016, 01:31:09 PM »

I think the way to deal with this is going along with the Hard Lefts beloved habit of obsessing over symbolism: kick some hate figure like Blair or Mandelson out of the party and give them a chance to redraft Clause IV.
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2016, 04:10:55 PM »

How many British posters here on the left are being bombarded with SAVE CORBYN notifications on facebook?
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2016, 10:12:13 AM »

I don't think Blair thinks he lied. He just allowed his hero complex and the crowds of wowing thanks from Kosovans and Sierra Leonians get to his head - very much a tragic hero.
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2016, 04:23:21 AM »

It's funny. During the post Iraq years people probably thought the Bobo vote was permanently lost to the Lib Dems. Now, the Natrative That We Must Accept is that bobos are now the core Labour vote!
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2016, 04:49:40 PM »

Ted Heath?
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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2016, 11:33:48 AM »

If he does win again you're more likely to see him get his old demand for annual leadership elections.

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