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Antonio the Sixth
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« on: February 11, 2016, 09:03:29 PM »


Ie, far better than most American TV. Tongue
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2016, 09:14:12 PM »

Bernie should point out that the government would spend a lot less if we ended mass incarceration and slashed the defense budget.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2016, 09:16:50 PM »

Bernie should point out that the government would spend a lot less if we ended mass incarceration and slashed the defense budget.

He already did.

Not really, and not directly enough.
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Antonio the Sixth
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P P
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2016, 09:18:47 PM »

Hillary is articulating her position very well on health care, tbh.
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Antonio the Sixth
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P P
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2016, 09:20:08 PM »

OMG here we go! Hammer her for Clinton's betrayal of progressives!
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Antonio the Sixth
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P P
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2016, 09:22:23 PM »

Here she goes, making promises she can't keep... Roll Eyes
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Antonio the Sixth
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E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2016, 09:26:59 PM »

Looks like she's distancing herself from Albright. Tongue
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2016, 09:31:12 PM »
« Edited: February 11, 2016, 09:35:56 PM by Californian Tony Returns »

OMG GO BERNIE!!!!

Perfect line on "historical" significance.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2016, 09:51:26 PM »

"Hopefully Republicans will come to their senses."

Yeah, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight... Roll Eyes
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2016, 09:54:34 PM »

BUT TED KENNEDY!!!!

What a weak reply.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2016, 10:00:09 PM »

Bernie is killing it on Social Security.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2016, 10:02:25 PM »

"I'm proud for Bernie's donors" WTF?
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2016, 10:05:53 PM »

"How do the large campaign contributors influence your campaign?"
Clinton: "Uhh, well, we have a lot of small doners too!"

Seriously, this is embarrassing.
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Antonio the Sixth
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P P
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2016, 10:09:35 PM »

I do think Hillary has a good point on financial regulation and the need to take a broader perspective. Bernie should take her to her word on that.
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Antonio the Sixth
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P P
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2016, 10:11:46 PM »

I liked Sanders "Why does the _____ industry donate?" Line that he repeated with various industries. It's a very good point.

Indeed. It says a lot that Hillary has NO response to that.
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Antonio the Sixth
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P P
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2016, 10:13:57 PM »

LOL, the PBS pundits are ridiculously biased.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2016, 10:16:04 PM »

I liked Sanders "Why does the _____ industry donate?" Line that he repeated with various industries. It's a very good point.

Indeed. It says a lot that Hillary has NO response to that.

Here is the proper response:
"Senator Sanders, I ran against President Obama in 2008 and found him a formidable opponent.  HE took money from the pharmaceutical industry!  HE took money from billionaires!  For heaven's sake, he took twice as much money from Wall Street as I have!  [misleading statistic, use the general election numbers]  So I ask you Senator Sanders, since you appear to be claiming that our President was bought and paid for by those industries, what did they get out of it?  What did he give them for all the money they gave him?"
Maybe she could start listing things AGAINST those industries' interests that Obama did and claiming she was partly responsible for them.

This doesn't answer the question. Is she arguing that the corporations that donated to Obama did so for no good reason? Out of the goodness of their heart? Or do they just like to waste their money?
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Antonio the Sixth
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Political Matrix
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P P
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2016, 10:17:15 PM »

Here she goes again on "government reform". Roll Eyes

A Clinton is always a Clinton...
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Antonio the Sixth
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2016, 10:21:17 PM »

My answer to 'why?', would be that industry donates to who they think will win.  They don't want to waste their money on a loser.

But why? Why do they feel the need to donate to the winner? This still doesn't answer the question.
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Antonio the Sixth
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2016, 10:23:41 PM »

OMG, Bernie's a hero for bringing up Mossadegh.
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Antonio the Sixth
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P P
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2016, 10:25:03 PM »

What the f**k, Hillary brings up a vote on a resolution? Seriously??
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Antonio the Sixth
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P P
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2016, 10:27:34 PM »

What the f**k, Hillary brings up a vote on a resolution? Seriously??

Yeah, what?  Now she's saying he voted for "a similar approach."  That's a lot different.

Saying "we would like this thing to happen" (which is what a resolution is) is very different from actually voting on a major policy vote.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2016, 10:27:56 PM »

OMG YES BRING UP KISSINGER!!!!
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Antonio the Sixth
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P P
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2016, 10:28:34 PM »


Go away.
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Antonio the Sixth
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P P
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2016, 10:30:05 PM »

Sanders is not talking about what his principles are, other than it is NOT Kissinger.

And that is a pretty big f**king deal.
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