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Fmr President & Senator Polnut
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« on: September 14, 2015, 12:50:14 AM »
« edited: September 14, 2015, 10:01:19 AM by Hash »
It's happened. Bishop has turned on Abbott. Turnbull has resigned from the front-bench and asked for a ballot.
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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2015, 12:54:08 AM »
Quote from: Αλληλεγγύη on September 14, 2015, 12:53:05 AM
How likely are the chances of Abbott getting toppled?

High.
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2015, 02:31:34 AM »
Sky News has confirmation that Abbott will run in the ballot.
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2015, 02:51:47 AM »
Quote from: Blair on September 14, 2015, 02:40:54 AM
For someone with virtually no experience in Australian Politics, why do leaders keep toppling each other and then switching roles and doing it again

It's bonkers. I don't really get it either. Sadly, the Rudd knifing in 2010 made things like this possible.
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2015, 02:58:43 AM »
Quote from: Barnes on September 14, 2015, 02:55:42 AM
Just saw a report that Abbott has asked Hockey to step aside.  Not confirmed, of course.

Abbott's people have denied this.
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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2015, 03:22:10 AM »
« Edited: September 14, 2015, 03:27:15 AM by Fmr President & Senator Polnut »

Probably around 7:30-8pm

EDIT: Rumbles that it will be 9pm
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2015, 03:53:22 AM »
WTF is going on... this thing will probably be tight.
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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2015, 04:18:01 AM »
« Edited: September 14, 2015, 04:36:44 AM by Fmr President & Senator Polnut »
Quote from: Crab on September 14, 2015, 04:07:38 AM
Yes ABC said Morrison is backing Abbott.

Has Pyne made a comment? He's an interesting one. Moderate wet, so far quite loyalist, but one of the more endangered ministers under current polls.

We haven't heard from anyone who actually matters.
- Pyne
- Robb
- Hunt
- Frydenberg - Abbott
- Brandis
- Ley
etc etc
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2015, 05:35:06 AM »
The vote will happen at 9:15pm... for God's sake, you have to assume if they were at ALL confident in their numbers, they would have called the spill much earlier.
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2015, 05:41:32 AM »
« Edited: September 14, 2015, 05:44:24 AM by Fmr President & Senator Polnut »
Apparently, the number is 100 99 - my feeling is...

Turnbull - 56
Abbott - 43
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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2015, 06:58:00 AM »
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2015, 07:28:07 AM »
Quote from: Anton Kreitzer on September 14, 2015, 07:07:09 AM
Great... hope Turncoatbull loses the next election, the Liberals really need to rebuild! The fact that we're stuck with him as PM for another year makes me shudder!

Yes, terrible you end up with someone who has a chance to connect with the middle-Australia that wins elections. The Coalition needs to speak to the non-ideological voters on kitchen-table issues and speak to the better angels of people's nature, not their baser instincts.

I truly hope the next election has a better chance of being a contest of ideas.
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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2015, 12:15:02 AM »
Quote from: Thoughtful Cynic on September 14, 2015, 10:29:38 PM
Is there a chance Turnbull will call an election a year early to take advantage of the honeymoon and silence internal dissent? Or would that backfire like in Alberta five months ago?

No idea, his comments so far have been about the Parliament running its term. But if they get a decent bounce, I wouldn't put it past them to manufacture some kind of excuse to go early.
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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2015, 02:32:00 AM »
Quote from: Anton Kreitzer on September 15, 2015, 12:29:39 AM
Quote from: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on September 15, 2015, 12:15:02 AM
Quote from: Thoughtful Cynic on September 14, 2015, 10:29:38 PM
Is there a chance Turnbull will call an election a year early to take advantage of the honeymoon and silence internal dissent? Or would that backfire like in Alberta five months ago?

No idea, his comments so far have been about the Parliament running its term. But if they get a decent bounce, I wouldn't put it past them to manufacture some kind of excuse to go early.

I think it would backfire, plus it would be a House-only election at this point in time, unless the double dissolution triggers (from when Abbott was in office) are used, and I don't think Turnbull will do that.

It would be a DD without a shadow of a doubt. But I'm 95% sure they'll go by March.
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