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« on: May 23, 2008, 03:59:45 PM »

Good point: All those voters that switched (especially in the SE) from Republican to Democrat were his base. He has a good reason to fear losing his primary challenge in 2010.

http://www.mcall.com/news/local/all-a1_5specter.6419488may22,0,6818072.story
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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2008, 04:13:33 PM »

I didn't realize his cancer had returned, poor guy.
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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2008, 04:32:00 PM »

If Specter loses the primary, hopefully he'll pull a Lieberman and win as an Independent (Pennsylvania for Specter Smiley)
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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2008, 05:07:18 PM »

If Specter loses the primary, hopefully he'll pull a Lieberman and win as an Independent (Pennsylvania for Specter Smiley)


In such a scenario it would most likely result in a Democrat victory.  But the good news is would no longer would have Specter's RINO ass around to vote with the DEMs.
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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2008, 05:37:39 PM »

If Specter loses the primary, hopefully he'll pull a Lieberman and win as an Independent (Pennsylvania for Specter Smiley)


Pennyslvania has funny, yet really ridiculous, law that prohibits a candidate who ran for an office yet lost in that primary to run for the same office in the General. This was a recent discovery on my part.
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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2008, 05:50:46 PM »

If Specter loses the primary, hopefully he'll pull a Lieberman and win as an Independent (Pennsylvania for Specter Smiley)


Pennyslvania has funny, yet really ridiculous, law that prohibits a candidate who ran for an office yet lost in that primary to run for the same office in the General. This was a recent discovery on my part.

Texas has the same type of law - so its not really rare.
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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2008, 06:01:53 PM »

I'm pulling for Senator Specter to recover.  Politically, he may be what I consider to be one of the better Republicans but he's far from the kind of liberal I like.  Doesn't matter though.  The guy has guts and grit -- I am hoping he kicks cancer's ass yet again.  He and Teddy, both.

(I'm still waiting for some televangelist to announce that they have cancer because God doesn't like their position on abortion or gay rights...)
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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2008, 10:10:36 PM »

In such a scenario it would most likely result in a Democrat victory.  But the good news is would no longer would have Specter's RINO ass around to vote with the DEMs.

Or to talk Craig into staying.  Or to investigate impeaching Clinton again.
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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2008, 10:20:53 PM »

If Specter loses the primary, hopefully he'll pull a Lieberman and win as an Independent (Pennsylvania for Specter Smiley)


Pennyslvania has funny, yet really ridiculous, law that prohibits a candidate who ran for an office yet lost in that primary to run for the same office in the General. This was a recent discovery on my part.

Texas has the same type of law - so its not really rare.

South Carolina prohibits them from running as petition candidates, but you can run as the candidate of another party or of multiple parties.  For example, the Working Families party is running a couple of candidates in State House races that are also participating in the Democratic primary this June 10.

Deadline for certifying a new party is about a month before the primaries are held, so someone who was trying to pull a CFL deal would need to submit the necessary 10,000 signatures before the primary and not after as Lieberman did.
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2008, 11:16:20 PM »

Go Toomey!!

Although by 2010, the Republicans will be in a deep minority status in the Senate and primary voters will be less likely to risk their vote on a far-right wing candidate who would likely lose in the general.
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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2008, 11:22:09 PM »

If Specter loses the primary, hopefully he'll pull a Lieberman and win as an Independent (Pennsylvania for Specter Smiley)


In such a scenario it would most likely result in a Democrat victory.  But the good news is would no longer would have Specter's RINO ass around to vote with the DEMs.

Yes, instead of a moderate Republican, you'll have a Democrat, which will no doubt be much more palatable to you.

After all, a Republican who's with you 75% of the time is no where near as useful as a Democrat who's with you 10% of the time.

Good luck with all that.
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« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2008, 07:17:13 AM »

If Specter loses the primary, hopefully he'll pull a Lieberman and win as an Independent (Pennsylvania for Specter Smiley)


In such a scenario it would most likely result in a Democrat victory.  But the good news is would no longer would have Specter's RINO ass around to vote with the DEMs.

Yes, instead of a moderate Republican, you'll have a Democrat, which will no doubt be much more palatable to you.

After all, a Republican who's with you 75% of the time is no where near as useful as a Democrat who's with you 10% of the time.

Good luck with all that.

As Harry Reid said recently: "The Republicans in the Senate are not moderates, with the one exception of Olympia Snowe are not moderates, they're right wing. And that includes some people who in the past have been moderates, someone you'd think like Arlen Specter. I talk about Arlen Specter in my book briefly and say that he's with us when we don't need him. Which is true, he never votes with us on an important vote. The only one who does is Olympia Snowe."
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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2008, 07:20:34 AM »

(I'm still waiting for some televangelist to announce that they have cancer because God doesn't like their position on abortion or gay rights...)

Haven't thought about it, but now that you mention it...I bet some idiot will make that claim.
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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2008, 03:00:05 PM »

If Specter loses the primary, hopefully he'll pull a Lieberman and win as an Independent (Pennsylvania for Specter Smiley)


In such a scenario it would most likely result in a Democrat victory.  But the good news is would no longer would have Specter's RINO ass around to vote with the DEMs.

Yes, instead of a moderate Republican, you'll have a Democrat, which will no doubt be much more palatable to you.

After all, a Republican who's with you 75% of the time is no where near as useful as a Democrat who's with you 10% of the time.

Good luck with all that.

As Harry Reid said recently: "The Republicans in the Senate are not moderates, with the one exception of Olympia Snowe are not moderates, they're right wing. And that includes some people who in the past have been moderates, someone you'd think like Arlen Specter. I talk about Arlen Specter in my book briefly and say that he's with us when we don't need him. Which is true, he never votes with us on an important vote. The only one who does is Olympia Snowe."

Harry Reid is about as unbiased an opinion on that as our Harry.
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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2008, 05:21:03 PM »

Specter DOES vote with Republicans on all the important issues. I don't consider him a moderate.
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« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2008, 09:57:38 PM »

If Specter loses the primary, hopefully he'll pull a Lieberman and win as an Independent (Pennsylvania for Specter Smiley)


In such a scenario it would most likely result in a Democrat victory.  But the good news is would no longer would have Specter's RINO ass around to vote with the DEMs.

Yes, instead of a moderate Republican, you'll have a Democrat, which will no doubt be much more palatable to you.

After all, a Republican who's with you 75% of the time is no where near as useful as a Democrat who's with you 10% of the time.

Good luck with all that.

As Harry Reid said recently: "The Republicans in the Senate are not moderates, with the one exception of Olympia Snowe are not moderates, they're right wing. And that includes some people who in the past have been moderates, someone you'd think like Arlen Specter. I talk about Arlen Specter in my book briefly and say that he's with us when we don't need him. Which is true, he never votes with us on an important vote. The only one who does is Olympia Snowe."

Harry Reid is about as unbiased an opinion on that as our Harry.

Specter DOES vote with Republicans on all the important issues. I don't consider him a moderate.

Finally, an unbiased voice!

ARLEN SPECTER IS A KKKONSERVATIVE.
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« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2008, 10:53:06 PM »
« Edited: May 24, 2008, 10:56:41 PM by Bluegrass Cruiser 420 »

Go Toomey!!

Although by 2010, the Republicans will be in a deep minority status in the Senate and primary voters will be less likely to risk their vote on a far-right wing candidate who would likely lose in the general.

Unless Obama wins and gives us the second term of Jimmy Carter he is promising and the GOP actually starts listening to its base, then Congressional Dems in both houses would have much to fear.

Then they can't actually label RINOS who they dupe in voting against their base to join with Democrats far right-wing and then run leftists who claim to be better moderates than their GOP opponents.
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« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2008, 11:21:41 PM »

Go Toomey!!

Although by 2010, the Republicans will be in a deep minority status in the Senate and primary voters will be less likely to risk their vote on a far-right wing candidate who would likely lose in the general.

Unless Obama wins and gives us the second term of Jimmy Carter he is promising and the GOP actually starts listening to its base, then Congressional Dems in both houses would have much to fear.

Then they can't actually label RINOS who they dupe in voting against their base to join with Democrats far right-wing and then run leftists who claim to be better moderates than their GOP opponents.

The GOP isn't having their problems because of "not listening to their base".   As the 06 results and exit polls showed, they didn't lose in 06 because of problems with their base.  They lost in 06 because they got their asses kicked among Independents and moderates.

As far as the landscape heading in 2010, after the results of this year the GOP is going to be in solid minority status in both the House and the Senate heading into the 2010 elections
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« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2008, 11:59:12 PM »


This coming from a partisan Republican who pretends to be some type of moderate independent.
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« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2008, 05:32:40 PM »
« Edited: May 25, 2008, 05:36:16 PM by Bluegrass Cruiser 420 »

Go Toomey!!

Although by 2010, the Republicans will be in a deep minority status in the Senate and primary voters will be less likely to risk their vote on a far-right wing candidate who would likely lose in the general.

Unless Obama wins and gives us the second term of Jimmy Carter he is promising and the GOP actually starts listening to its base, then Congressional Dems in both houses would have much to fear.

Then they can't actually label RINOS who they dupe in voting against their base to join with Democrats far right-wing and then run leftists who claim to be better moderates than their GOP opponents.

The GOP isn't having their problems because of "not listening to their base".   As the 06 results and exit polls showed, they didn't lose in 06 because of problems with their base.  They lost in 06 because they got their asses kicked among Independents and moderates.

As far as the landscape heading in 2010, after the results of this year the GOP is going to be in solid minority status in both the House and the Senate heading into the 2010 elections

Yes that is what you everyone to think.  The GOP doesn't listen to tis base, a good portion of its base either doesn't vote, vote for third party or independent candidates or some case for DEMS, and independents end up having a choice between DEM and DEM lite and figure might as well go for the real thing.
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« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2008, 06:05:42 PM »

Yes that is what you everyone to think.  The GOP doesn't listen to tis base, a good portion of its base either doesn't vote, vote for third party or independent candidates or some case for DEMS, and independents end up having a choice between DEM and DEM lite and figure might as well go for the real thing.

do you smoke weed?
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« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2008, 08:05:26 PM »

Yes that is what you everyone to think.  The GOP doesn't listen to tis base, a good portion of its base either doesn't vote, vote for third party or independent candidates or some case for DEMS, and independents end up having a choice between DEM and DEM lite and figure might as well go for the real thing.

Or you have a case like 2006, where the base turns out in big numbers to support the President's allies in Congress and get outvoted by all the Democrats and Independents combined voting against them.
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« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2008, 09:34:47 PM »

Go Toomey!!

Although by 2010, the Republicans will be in a deep minority status in the Senate and primary voters will be less likely to risk their vote on a far-right wing candidate who would likely lose in the general.

Unless Obama wins and gives us the second term of Jimmy Carter he is promising and the GOP actually starts listening to its base, then Congressional Dems in both houses would have much to fear.

Then they can't actually label RINOS who they dupe in voting against their base to join with Democrats far right-wing and then run leftists who claim to be better moderates than their GOP opponents.

The GOP isn't having their problems because of "not listening to their base".   As the 06 results and exit polls showed, they didn't lose in 06 because of problems with their base.  They lost in 06 because they got their asses kicked among Independents and moderates.

As far as the landscape heading in 2010, after the results of this year the GOP is going to be in solid minority status in both the House and the Senate heading into the 2010 elections

Yes that is what you everyone to think.  The GOP doesn't listen to tis base, a good portion of its base either doesn't vote, vote for third party or independent candidates or some case for DEMS, and independents end up having a choice between DEM and DEM lite and figure might as well go for the real thing.

Thats what the right wing in the GOP want you to think so they can take the party even further over the cliff, the 06 results don't back it up.  Republicans and conservatives made up a similar % of the electorate in 06 as they did in 04 and they voted GOP by about the same amount asthey did in 04, the difference was they got their asses kicked by moderates & Independents (lost by 20)
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« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2008, 10:00:29 PM »

Yes that is what you everyone to think.  The GOP doesn't listen to tis base, a good portion of its base either doesn't vote, vote for third party or independent candidates or some case for DEMS, and independents end up having a choice between DEM and DEM lite and figure might as well go for the real thing.

do you smoke weed?

No, people who smoke weed at least have some perception of reality.  Conservanuts have no such perception.
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« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2008, 11:27:17 AM »

In such a scenario it would most likely result in a Democrat victory.  But the good news is would no longer would have Specter's RINO ass around to vote with the DEMs.

Or to talk Craig into staying.  Or to investigate impeaching Clinton again.

his latest mission is investigating the new england patriots.

hopefully rendell will run and put this fellow out of his misery.
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