Bush Sr. vs. Obama 2012

[Bo]

Discuss.

I think Obama would win in a massive landslide.

[Bo]

ROFL! I don't think this has ever been discussed. Either way, there is no need for me to post a map, as Obama would win in a blowout.

I know. This is a silly scenario, but it is possible since Bush Sr. is eligible to run again. Anyway, I'm guessing the map will look like 2008 except with Obama also winning GA, MT, AZ, MO, and MT. Bush Sr. is actually a pretty respectable candidate (despite his age in 2012), so I doubt he would do much worse than the typical Republican candidate that year (assuming he doesn't pick someone stupid like Dan "Potatoe" Quayle as his running mate).

[Bo]

lol

Of course he would. Didn't you consider that Bush would be a little too old by then? More importantly, why would he run?

The same reason why Bob Dole ran in 1996. So that the Republicans would have a respectable candidate to go up against the incumbent president, even if that candidate was a sacrificial lamb. If Dole did not run, the Republicans might have nominated a fringe candidate like Buchanan, which would have ruined their image in 2000 and possibly caused a Gore victory. Dole had his seat in the Senate guaranteed for life, yet he chose to leave the Senate and run a race which he did not except to win for the good of his party. Now that's a true FF, even if I don't agree with all of his views.

[Bo]

lol

Of course he would. Didn't you consider that Bush would be a little too old by then? More importantly, why would he run?

The same reason why Bob Dole ran in 1996. So that the Republicans would have a respectable candidate to go up against the incumbent president, even if that candidate was a sacrificial lamb. If Dole did not run, the Republicans might have nominated a fringe candidate like Buchanan, which would have ruined their image in 2000 and possibly caused a Gore victory. Dole had his seat in the Senate guaranteed for life, yet he chose to leave the Senate and run a race which he did not except to win for the good of his party. Now that's a true FF, even if I don't agree with all of his views.

Yes but Bush would be 88 in 2012, far older than Dole in 1996. He might not even be able to campaign.

I know this scenario is very unlikely, but Bush Sr. wont need to campaign in 2012. He already has much more name recognition than Dole had before he ran.

[Bo]

Wouldn't be good for a sacrifical lamb anyway.

1. Probably unable to do any campaigning
2. Bush name is toxic

I think Sr. is in pretty good health for someone who's 85. He should be able to campaign even at age 88. About the second part, I think that many people's opinions of Bush Sr. have actually dramatically improved since his son took office, since many people who thought Sr. was a poor President now think that he's great in comparison to his son.

[Bo]

ru sure?

Yes, I'm sure. A President can serve either two-full terms or up to 10 years total. Since Bush Sr. only served one term, he can run for another term if he wants to. Grover Cleveland served two non-consecutive terms as U.S. President--I can't see why Bush Sr. wouldn't be able to.

[Bo]

lol I meant in today's world

There are still people alive right now who were alive when Grover Cleveland was President. BTW, I think Bush Jr. might have won a second non-consecutive term in 2008 if Kerry beat him in 2004 since Kerry would get the blame for the Great Recession and financial crisis.

[Bo]

There are still people alive right now who were alive when Grover Cleveland was President.

If someone was born at the end of Clevelands second term in early 1897 then they'd be 113 years old today.

I know, and there are people that old today. The oldest verified person in the world was born in 1895.