Dean as an Independent

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DAVE'S ODDS TO WIN THE SUPER BOWL

1. New England....5/2
2. Philadelphia....5/2
3. St. Louis....4/1
4. Kansas City...4/1
5. Green Bay...12/1
6. Indianapolis...12/1
7. Denver....14/1
8. Tennessee...16/1
9. Baltimore...20/1
10. Carolina...20/1
11. Dallas...35/1
12. Seattle....60/1

But two bucks on 20/1 Carolina, don't take denver.  Seattle, although at 60/1, isn't worth your money.

I picked The pats in August so I am doing fine so far.

[DarthKosh]

DAVE'S ODDS TO WIN THE SUPER BOWL

1. New England....5/2
2. Philadelphia....5/2
3. St. Louis....4/1
4. Kansas City...4/1
5. Green Bay...12/1
6. Indianapolis...12/1
7. Denver....14/1
8. Tennessee...16/1
9. Baltimore...20/1
10. Carolina...20/1
11. Dallas...35/1
12. Seattle....60/1

But two bucks on 20/1 Carolina, don't take denver.  Seattle, although at 60/1, isn't worth your money.

I picked The pats in August so I am doing fine so far.

Rams and Chiefs.  Chiefs in a squeeker.

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Nonono.  The chiefs are dead, they are 3-3 in their last six.  Their defense is slow, and I wouldn't put half of a cent on trent Green in the playoffs.

[DarthKosh]

Nonono.  The chiefs are dead, they are 3-3 in their last six.  Their defense is slow, and I wouldn't put half of a cent on trent Green in the playoffs.

Raven had no offense and they won.  So I will still tick to my prediction.

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Nonono.  The chiefs are dead, they are 3-3 in their last six.  Their defense is slow, and I wouldn't put half of a cent on trent Green in the playoffs.

Raven had no offense and they won.  So I will still tick to my prediction.

The Chiefs defense is nowhere near the caliber of the 2000 ravens defense.  Not even close.

[DarthKosh]

Nonono.  The chiefs are dead, they are 3-3 in their last six.  Their defense is slow, and I wouldn't put half of a cent on trent Green in the playoffs.

Raven had no offense and they won.  So I will still tick to my prediction.

The Chiefs defense is nowhere near the caliber of the 2000 ravens defense.  Not even close.

If you have a good offence you can have a weak defence.

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Defense wins championships.  the last offensively based team to win a Super Bowl was St. Louis in 1999.

[DarthKosh]

Defense wins championships.  the last offensively based team to win a Super Bowl was St. Louis in 1999.

No true.  Tampa and New England had good offenses.

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Defense wins championships.  the last offensively based team to win a Super Bowl was St. Louis in 1999.

No true.  Tampa and New England had good offenses.

Tampa did not have a good offense.  And New England's offense was functional but they were still defensively based.

[DarthKosh]

Defense wins championships.  the last offensively based team to win a Super Bowl was St. Louis in 1999.

No true.  Tampa and New England had good offenses.

Tampa did not have a good offense.  And New England's offense was functional but they were still defensively based.

Tampa had a good running game and a decent passing and the same for New England.  Oakland and the Rams had horrible defenses those years.

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Tampa's defense carried them.  St. Louis's defense was good in 2001 after they added Aaneas williams and Duncan.

[DarthKosh]

Tampa's defense carried them.  St. Louis's defense was good in 2001 after they added Aaneas williams and Duncan.

They had a mediocre run defense and williams aint a spring chicken.

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Tampa's defense carried them.  St. Louis's defense was good in 2001 after they added Aaneas williams and Duncan.

They had a mediocre run defense and williams aint a spring chicken.

He was then.  He was 33 I think.

[DarthKosh]

Tampa's defense carried them.  St. Louis's defense was good in 2001 after they added Aaneas williams and Duncan.

They had a mediocre run defense and williams aint a spring chicken.

He was then.  He was 33 I think.

That 's old for a corner that has to chase down twenty year olds.

[Gustaf]

Tampa's defense carried them.  St. Louis's defense was good in 2001 after they added Aaneas williams and Duncan.

They had a mediocre run defense and williams aint a spring chicken.

He was then.  He was 33 I think.

That 's old for a corner that has to chase down twenty year olds.

I think you guys have made the most successful stray from topic ever. I opened this thread on page three and I was dumbfounded. You went from Dean running as an independent to SUPER BOWL. That is rather impressive...

[DarthKosh]

Tampa's defense carried them.  St. Louis's defense was good in 2001 after they added Aaneas williams and Duncan.

They had a mediocre run defense and williams aint a spring chicken.

He was then.  He was 33 I think.

That 's old for a corner that has to chase down twenty year olds.

I think you guys have made the most successful stray from topic ever. I opened this thread on page three and I was dumbfounded. You went from Dean running as an independent to SUPER BOWL. That is rather impressive...

The Superbowl is a month away.  It's never to early for superbowl chatter.

[jravnsbo]

Best part is that Dean WILL be the nominee!

DarthKosh, do you have a paypal account?

So according to you i can not have an opinion without betting money?

I think you don't feel real strongly about it if you don't bet money.

[jravnsbo]

one week at a time in football:

Winners this weekend--

Broncos
Cowboys
Packers
Ravens

[DarthKosh]

one week at a time in football:

Winners this weekend--

Broncos
Cowboys
Packers
Ravens

Boy the Cowboys had one hell of a year didn't they?

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one week at a time in football:

Winners this weekend--

Broncos
Cowboys
Packers
Ravens

You're nuts.  Broncos can pull of the repeat at Indy.  It reminds me of the Jets a few years ago going into Oakland twice, and losing the second game.  The Cowboys aren't going to defeat Carolina.  Carolina's defense is one of the best in the NFL, and they are on a roll again after stumbling.  And the ravens?  Nice defense, by my NFL MVP runner-up  Steve McNair will pick them apart and and bring the 11-win titans to victory.

[DarthKosh]

one week at a time in football:

Winners this weekend--

Broncos
Cowboys
Packers
Ravens

You're nuts.  Broncos can pull of the repeat at Indy.  It reminds me of the Jets a few years ago going into Oakland twice, and losing the second game.  The Cowboys aren't going to defeat Carolina.  Carolina's defense is one of the best in the NFL, and they are on a roll again after stumbling.  And the ravens?  Nice defense, by my NFL MVP runner-up  Steve McNair will pick them apart and and bring the 11-win titans to victory.

Cowboys have had that kind of luck this year.

[© tweed]

one week at a time in football:

Winners this weekend--

Broncos
Cowboys
Packers
Ravens

You're nuts.  Broncos can pull of the repeat at Indy.  It reminds me of the Jets a few years ago going into Oakland twice, and losing the second game.  The Cowboys aren't going to defeat Carolina.  Carolina's defense is one of the best in the NFL, and they are on a roll again after stumbling.  And the ravens?  Nice defense, by my NFL MVP runner-up  Steve McNair will pick them apart and and bring the 11-win titans to victory.

Cowboys have had that kind of luck this year.

They aren't that good.  Carter has more INT's than TD's.  The coach of the year, hands down, is Bill Belichick, who was Jets coach for a day.  I can't tell you what I think of that @$$h0Le Belichick.

[DarthKosh]

one week at a time in football:

Winners this weekend--

Broncos
Cowboys
Packers
Ravens

You're nuts.  Broncos can pull of the repeat at Indy.  It reminds me of the Jets a few years ago going into Oakland twice, and losing the second game.  The Cowboys aren't going to defeat Carolina.  Carolina's defense is one of the best in the NFL, and they are on a roll again after stumbling.  And the ravens?  Nice defense, by my NFL MVP runner-up  Steve McNair will pick them apart and and bring the 11-win titans to victory.

Cowboys have had that kind of luck this year.

They aren't that good.  Carter has more INT's than TD's.  The coach of the year, hands down, is Bill Belichick, who was Jets coach for a day.  I can't tell you what I think of that @$$h0Le Belichick.

That was the regular season.  This is the play-offs and it's a whole other animal.

[© tweed]

one week at a time in football:

Winners this weekend--

Broncos
Cowboys
Packers
Ravens

You're nuts.  Broncos can pull of the repeat at Indy.  It reminds me of the Jets a few years ago going into Oakland twice, and losing the second game.  The Cowboys aren't going to defeat Carolina.  Carolina's defense is one of the best in the NFL, and they are on a roll again after stumbling.  And the ravens?  Nice defense, by my NFL MVP runner-up  Steve McNair will pick them apart and and bring the 11-win titans to victory.

Cowboys have had that kind of luck this year.

They aren't that good.  Carter has more INT's than TD's.  The coach of the year, hands down, is Bill Belichick, who was Jets coach for a day.  I can't tell you what I think of that @$$h0Le Belichick.

That was the regular season.  This is the play-offs and it's a whole other animal.

A six-seed has never made it to their respective conference championship.

[DarthKosh]

one week at a time in football:

Winners this weekend--

Broncos
Cowboys
Packers
Ravens

You're nuts.  Broncos can pull of the repeat at Indy.  It reminds me of the Jets a few years ago going into Oakland twice, and losing the second game.  The Cowboys aren't going to defeat Carolina.  Carolina's defense is one of the best in the NFL, and they are on a roll again after stumbling.  And the ravens?  Nice defense, by my NFL MVP runner-up  Steve McNair will pick them apart and and bring the 11-win titans to victory.

Cowboys have had that kind of luck this year.

They aren't that good.  Carter has more INT's than TD's.  The coach of the year, hands down, is Bill Belichick, who was Jets coach for a day.  I can't tell you what I think of that @$$h0Le Belichick.

That was the regular season.  This is the play-offs and it's a whole other animal.

A six-seed has never made it to their respective conference championship.

And wild-cards never win championships either.