Intelligent design belongs in Church not Biology class.

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Many biblical events have either been a) proven or b) enough proof has been presented to make them credible. Quit calling the whole bible "myth". Do you deny Noah's Ark, the jews in slavery, moses, Jesus? Are they just "myths" when archaeologists have proven such events to have actually occured?

[Redefeatbush04]

Quit calling the whole bible "myth". Do you deny Noah's Ark, the jews in slavery, moses, Jesus? Are they just "myths" when archaeologists have proven such events to have actually occured?

yes

[??????????]

Quit calling the whole bible "myth". Do you deny Noah's Ark, the jews in slavery, moses, Jesus? Are they just "myths" when archaeologists have proven such events to have actually occured?

yes

OK, deny the historical record. Then I guess you can deny your so called "evolution" or "missing link".

[Redefeatbush04]

Quit calling the whole bible "myth". Do you deny Noah's Ark, the jews in slavery, moses, Jesus? Are they just "myths" when archaeologists have proven such events to have actually occured?

yes

OK, deny the historical record. Then I guess you can deny your so called "evolution" or "missing link".

jesus existed but was a magician (yes believe it or not there is proof)
the jews were slaves and escaped it (but not with help from "god")
moses was a great leader but nothing more
noahs ark is.....not logical and has no proof. maybe there was a flood and an ark but no animals. and only a small area flooded

[KillerPollo]

jesus existed but was a magician (yes believe it or not there is proof)

HOW CAN YOU EVEN SAY THAT? deny the power of God?

[John Dibble]

jesus existed but was a magician (yes believe it or not there is proof)

HOW CAN YOU EVEN SAY THAT? deny the power of God?

Keep in mind that not everyone believes in God, or at least the same God you do.

[John Dibble]

Intellegent design is just a word for the Genesis version of man's creation without actually saying it so it won't violate seperation of Church and State.

Just correcting your logic here - Intelligent Design makes no mention of any particular God or religion, it simply states that an outside force(probably divine in nature) was the cause for gradual changes in species.

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Just correcting your logic here - Intelligent Design makes no mention of any particular God or religion, it simply states that an outside force(probably divine in nature) was the cause for gradual changes in species.

Correct, Intelligent Design doesn't mention religion, but it appeals to the creationists as a way to try to market creationism and not have it look like creationism. The fact is that Intelligent Design has no scientific evidence, and is not a scientific theory, and so doesn't belong in a science class.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Many biblical events have either been a) proven or b) enough proof has been presented to make them credible. Quit calling the whole bible "myth". Do you deny Noah's Ark, the jews in slavery, moses, Jesus? Are they just "myths" when archaeologists have proven such events to have actually occured?

Yea, a man got together every species on Earth and crammed them into a giant boat while it rained for 40 days straight. 

Ok States......ok

[??????????]

Many biblical events have either been a) proven or b) enough proof has been presented to make them credible. Quit calling the whole bible "myth". Do you deny Noah's Ark, the jews in slavery, moses, Jesus? Are they just "myths" when archaeologists have proven such events to have actually occured?

Yea, a man got together every species on Earth and crammed them into a giant boat while it rained for 40 days straight. 

Ok States......ok

Ok, debate the historical record if you wish. Although it hasn't been proven that EVERY animal was put on a boat. It certainly is very plausible their WAS a flood. And it's been proven re : Black Sea.

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Ok, debate the historical record if you wish. Although it hasn't been proven that EVERY animal was put on a boat. It certainly is very plausible their WAS a flood. And it's been proven re : Black Sea.

It would have had to be a very high flood for yaks to have been affected.

[The Dowager Mod]

I wouldn't call it "intelligent" design simply because god put men in charge.

[??????????]

I wouldn't call it "intelligent" design simply because god put men in charge.

Damn it I gave a rib for you! What more do you want?

[The Dowager Mod]

You do not want to know.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Many biblical events have either been a) proven or b) enough proof has been presented to make them credible. Quit calling the whole bible "myth". Do you deny Noah's Ark, the jews in slavery, moses, Jesus? Are they just "myths" when archaeologists have proven such events to have actually occured?

Yea, a man got together every species on Earth and crammed them into a giant boat while it rained for 40 days straight. 

Ok States......ok

Ok, debate the historical record if you wish. Although it hasn't been proven that EVERY animal was put on a boat. It certainly is very plausible their WAS a flood. And it's been proven re : Black Sea.

Yes, there was a flood.  The Epic of Gilgamesh, also written at the time, describes a flood in the Middle East.  So do many other ancients texts.  But it was not a flood decreed by God to wash clean the sins of humanity.  It was more likely geologically related or the overflowing of a river.  At the time, the people of the Middle East knew nothing of any other people in the world.  So a flood that destroyed some of the earlier civilizations there could have been interpreted as a punishment from God because they only people they knew where affected by the flood as well. 

[??????????]

Many biblical events have either been a) proven or b) enough proof has been presented to make them credible. Quit calling the whole bible "myth". Do you deny Noah's Ark, the jews in slavery, moses, Jesus? Are they just "myths" when archaeologists have proven such events to have actually occured?

Yea, a man got together every species on Earth and crammed them into a giant boat while it rained for 40 days straight. 

Ok States......ok

Ok, debate the historical record if you wish. Although it hasn't been proven that EVERY animal was put on a boat. It certainly is very plausible their WAS a flood. And it's been proven re : Black Sea.

Yes, there was a flood.  The Epic of Gilgamesh, also written at the time, describes a flood in the Middle East.  So do many other ancients texts.  But it was not a flood decreed by God to wash clean the sins of humanity.  It was more likely geologically related or the overflowing of a river.  At the time, the people of the Middle East knew nothing of any other people in the world.  So a flood that destroyed some of the earlier civilizations there could have been interpreted as a punishment from God because they only people they knew where affected by the flood as well. 

You nor I could know whether God did that or not.

[Redefeatbush04]

Many biblical events have either been a) proven or b) enough proof has been presented to make them credible. Quit calling the whole bible "myth". Do you deny Noah's Ark, the jews in slavery, moses, Jesus? Are they just "myths" when archaeologists have proven such events to have actually occured?

Yea, a man got together every species on Earth and crammed them into a giant boat while it rained for 40 days straight. 

Ok States......ok

Ok, debate the historical record if you wish. Although it hasn't been proven that EVERY animal was put on a boat. It certainly is very plausible their WAS a flood. And it's been proven re : Black Sea.

Yes, there was a flood.  The Epic of Gilgamesh, also written at the time, describes a flood in the Middle East.  So do many other ancients texts.  But it was not a flood decreed by God to wash clean the sins of humanity.  It was more likely geologically related or the overflowing of a river.  At the time, the people of the Middle East knew nothing of any other people in the world.  So a flood that destroyed some of the earlier civilizations there could have been interpreted as a punishment from God because they only people they knew where affected by the flood as well. 

You nor I could know whether God did that or not

nor do we know that there is a god

[MODU]

I'll say it once again:

Evolution covers what happened from the time when there was nothing to the time when life began to evolved.  People tout Evolution as a science when it cannot explain how life itself began, something which many pro-Evolutionists seem to not want to recognize in their arguments.  On the flip side, we have evidence of micro-evolution today, something which some pro-creationists seem to ignore in their arguments. 

People need to understand that both can be true and have their place in our history.  But since there are no facts that "creation" occurred (and there is no evidence that says it didn't occur either), it should not be taught in Science class.  HOWEVER, it does need to be taught in either English (as in the Bible is a great work of literature) or History classes.  Unfortunately, some school districts and the ACLU do not agree, and therefore endorse censorship, when other non-Chrsitian creation stories are taught.

[John Dibble]

HOWEVER, it does need to be taught in either English (as in the Bible is a great work of literature) or History classes.

We did Genesis in my senior year English class. The teacher(who was Christian, btw) asked that we look at it as literature and for people to seperate their beliefs from that when reading it. Man we had a fun debate on that, because since he took it as literature he ripped it a new one and 2/3 of the class argued with him and just couldn't seperate their beliefs from it at all. That and the debate on A Modest Proposal were the two best discussions of the year.

[MODU]

HOWEVER, it does need to be taught in either English (as in the Bible is a great work of literature) or History classes.

We did Genesis in my senior year English class. The teacher(who was Christian, btw) asked that we look at it as literature and for people to seperate their beliefs from that when reading it. Man we had a fun debate on that, because since he took it as literature he ripped it a new one and 2/3 of the class argued with him and just couldn't seperate their beliefs from it at all. That and the debate on A Modest Proposal were the two best discussions of the year.

hahaha . . . we did the first 3 chapters of Genesis in one of my college classes.  Our teacher was obsessed with sex, and she went through those chapters pulling out all the sexual induendo's.  While on one had it was amusing to see this old lady look for sex in all the wrong places, she was totally out of line, and heard about it in many of our test papers.

[John Dibble]

HOWEVER, it does need to be taught in either English (as in the Bible is a great work of literature) or History classes.

We did Genesis in my senior year English class. The teacher(who was Christian, btw) asked that we look at it as literature and for people to seperate their beliefs from that when reading it. Man we had a fun debate on that, because since he took it as literature he ripped it a new one and 2/3 of the class argued with him and just couldn't seperate their beliefs from it at all. That and the debate on A Modest Proposal were the two best discussions of the year.

hahaha . . . we did the first 3 chapters of Genesis in one of my college classes.  Our teacher was obsessed with sex, and she went through those chapters pulling out all the sexual induendo's.  While on one had it was amusing to see this old lady look for sex in all the wrong places, she was totally out of line, and heard about it in many of our test papers.

Our teacher was more pointing out inconsistencies or just plain bad writing and whatnot. One thing I loved was he commented on when God started having "The Lord" in front of it(it initially didn't) - "So since when did this guy become a Lord?". Of course what was really great was talking about the seventh day - why did God rest? Was he tired? If he can get tired he must not be all powerful? You can imagine the outrage of some of the students at hearing that, lol.

[MODU]

hehehe . . . "Hey, he had to get 18 in on the golf course, which is why men golf on Saturdays." 

[tarheel-leftist85]

Intelligent design isn't falisifiable (like all scientific theories must be), therefore it has no place in science class.  It does in philosophy and maybe English composition.

[Democratic Hawk]

It belongs in schools but not the biology class

Dave

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It belongs in schools but not the biology class

Dave

So does evolution due to the fact that evolution has more holes in it then a block of swiss cheese.