Clinton Takes on Sanders Hecklers in NY

[Gass3268]

Meh... not "presidential," to say the least. For a lot of reasons, I am increasingly glad that I'm not voting in a state that will be competitive in the general election,

I too am struggling with this very question. If I was back in Madison it wouldn't be a question, but living in Maryland gives me options.

[Eraserhead]

Meh... not "presidential," to say the least. For a lot of reasons, I am increasingly glad that I'm not voting in a state that will be competitive in the general election,

I too am struggling with this very question. If I was back in Madison it wouldn't be a question, but living in Maryland gives me options.

Hop on the Jill Stein train with me. Let's get her to 1% (or more).

[Gass3268]

Meh... not "presidential," to say the least. For a lot of reasons, I am increasingly glad that I'm not voting in a state that will be competitive in the general election,

I too am struggling with this very question. If I was back in Madison it wouldn't be a question, but living in Maryland gives me options.

Hop on the Jill Stein train with me. Let's get her to 1% (or more).

For me now the decision is a struggle, partially because my fiancé and mother would kill me if I didn't vote for Hillary in the general, lol! I'll have to see how campaign plays out and if Hillary checks all the right boxes (doesn't moderate/move to he center, picks a solid progressive VP, remains opposed to the TPP, etc).

[Ebsy]

This from the guy who dislikes posts with poll results he doesn't care for.

I disliked your commentary.

[Eraserhead]

This from the guy who dislikes posts with poll results he doesn't care for.

I disliked your commentary.

The commentary where I mentioned that Quinnipiac has had a Bernie lean this cycle and noted the racial breakdown in the poll.  Mmk...

[Ogre Mage]

The protestors are just venting their frustrations that their preferred candidate has lost the primary.  If Sanders was winning I doubt we'd see them there.

[Landslide Lyndon]

The protestors are just venting their frustrations that their preferred candidate has lost the primary.  If Sanders were winning I doubt we'd see them there.

Ogre wins the thread, as usual.

[IceSpear]

Hillary lost me a long time ago, I will probably be voting Green this fall or not at all.

I mean, you've been one of the most consistent peddlers of the Clinton email scandal, so no one is exactly fooled.

Actually, back in the day henster was extreme Hillary hack, even thinking she was unbeatable in the general election. The fact that he seamlessly transitioned into a faux scandal peddler and concern troll is pretty humorous to me. It wasn't even a gradual transition either, but basically overnight. I'd be interested in hearing what caused the epiphany.

[IceSpear]

Meh... not "presidential," to say the least. For a lot of reasons, I am increasingly glad that I'm not voting in a state that will be competitive in the general election,

I wish we were all as privileged as you to allow Republicans to criminalize abortion and roll back gay marriage.

You don't know me, and your candidate is not entitled to me vote. Spare me the condescending pieties.

I can tell you this: My vote isn't going to change because of how anyone's online supporters have treated me, but if I do choose not to vote for Clinton, the behavior that we've seen throughout this election from posters like you, Lief, Mondale, and bedstuy will have made me feel markedly more comfortable about doing so. Reflect on that before assuming the worst about anyone who disagrees with you.

You whining about maybe voting for Clinton just confirms everything I suspect to be true about you. Feel free to keep disliking my posts on AAD and flouting your undeserved and smug intellectual superiority. She wins, you lose.

Crazy thought: People don't have to support candidates they don't like.

Well, by that logic, Clinton has the most votes so she must be the most liked.

More like I'm assuming the people that have voted for Clinton so far do not dislike her. With recent comments like this, it is understandable that some people dislike her. That is not good for her because people are probably less likely to vote for someone they dislike. Clinton is not entitled to a single vote, and she must earn every single one. She really shouldn't be making comments like this that are turning off the people she needs to win over, and comments like yours directed to disaffected Democrats certainly do not help.

Clinton is scoring better on Pew's party unity metric that Obama did in 2008, and he had little to no trouble consolidating support among Democrats outside of places like Arkansas and West Virginia. She is not going to have trouble getting the vast majority of Democrats behind her, and general election polls clearly show.

I do have a question though, and that is why you don't apply the same standard to Sanders? He and his supporters constantly guttersnipe us as paid for shills who obviously must be in the pocket of the big banks or whatever. He insinuates everyone that disagrees with him (a clear majority of Democrats) is corrupt. Don't you think that is more of an obstacle to consolidating support than Clinton calling out some hecklers for being idiots?

I would be saying the same things if there was a clip of Sanders yelling at someone that Clinton was a liar, and if a poster here was being attacked for saying they would not vote for Sanders should he win the nomination. I have not yet witnessed such a case on this forum of a Clinton supporter being attacked for not hypothetically supporting Sanders (not saying it hasn't necessarily happened though, just that I haven't seen one and thus haven't responded to such a situation).

Furthermore, I am of the opinion that Clinton has been running a more negative campaign than Sanders in terms of attacks directed towards their opponents specifically. It is much more negative to call someone a liar than to point out facts about donors and voting records. It's also pretty hyperbolic to say that Sanders has been calling every Democrat that disagrees with him corrupt and I think you're aware of that. Bottom line however, people are free to support whomever they please, even if that leads to negative consequences. I'll most likely be voting for Clinton come November, but I wouldn't hold anyone in contempt that refused to do so.

Neither Clinton nor Sanders has run a negative campaign. But if we're taking tone of supporters into consideration, Sanders wins that contest by far. Most of Bernie's internet cultists are far more focused on trying to tear Hillary down rather than build Bernie up.