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« on: April 25, 2024, 03:20:07 AM »

Biden is very based lately
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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2024, 07:10:21 AM »

very low bar.
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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2024, 11:26:12 AM »

No, Joe Biden is not better than Hillary Clinton. Biden may be the best President we’ve had in decades, but let’s not get carried away.
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2024, 11:44:52 AM »

No, Joe Biden is not better than Hillary Clinton. Biden may be the best President we’ve had in decades, but let’s not get carried away.
No, TDAS. I think I will. Hillary probably wouldn't have passed the WOMAN Act (a hypothetical legislation that would ban all trans people) to stave off her 15th impeachment, but I don't know for sure, unlike Biden.
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2024, 01:45:47 PM »

I strongly disagree that Biden is better than Clinton. Clinton was way better at foreign policy and would’ve been more pragmatic at governing.
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2024, 01:49:46 PM »

Of course. He would have been the better candidate in 2016 as well.
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2024, 02:15:53 PM »

I strongly disagree that Biden is better than Clinton. Clinton was way better at foreign policy and would’ve been more pragmatic at governing.
Did you even voted for her? you were a Republican not so long ago.
Are voting for Kim now that Murphy droppet out?
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2024, 05:50:35 PM »

The Democratic Party is certainly stronger under him than it would have been under her.

Still, we wouldn't be in some of the messes we currently are in if she won in 2016, damn the spice politics!
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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2024, 11:33:09 PM »

Don't think this is a particularly controversial take.
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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2024, 07:03:24 AM »

A president Hillary would have no major legislative accomplishments, a historically inept foreign policy (I imagine we'd still be in Afghanistan if she were in charge summer 2021 so on top of all the foreign crises right now the US would also be juggling fighting a losing war for the 23rd year), and would be willing to sell out trans rights in exchange for no political benefits. The only area she could plausibly be better than him on is immigration. This really isn't a question, a President Hillary is only preferable to a President Biden from the perspective that actively opposes both but would prefer the less competent choice because she'd do less harm
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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2024, 08:41:15 AM »

I strongly disagree that Biden is better than Clinton. Clinton was way better at foreign policy and would’ve been more pragmatic at governing.

Biden was more cuatious during the Obama Admin, especially with regard to Syria and Libya, where HRC wanted to go all in. In the aftermath, it's clear that Biden was overall right. HRC might also have decided against leaving Afghanistan, adding up to more years on a lost cause. In addition, Biden is arguably a better candidate for a GE.
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2024, 04:57:36 PM »

I strongly disagree that Biden is better than Clinton. Clinton was way better at foreign policy and would’ve been more pragmatic at governing.

Biden was more cuatious during the Obama Admin, especially with regard to Syria and Libya, where HRC wanted to go all in. In the aftermath, it's clear that Biden was overall right. HRC might also have decided against leaving Afghanistan, adding up to more years on a lost cause. In addition, Biden is arguably a better candidate for a GE.

I think the US could have won in Syria if it tried harder. Our impact on Libya has always been overrated, the Libyans were ready to get rid of Gaddafi, regardless. On the note of Afghanistan, it is a benefit for American national security to not have a government in power like the Taliban, who sheltered terrorists when they were last in charge.
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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2024, 08:38:14 PM »

Of course. He would have been the better candidate in 2016 as well.

Trump beats Biden in 2016 and loses to Hillary in 2020.
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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2024, 12:12:24 AM »

Poor John Kerry.
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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2024, 12:18:32 AM »

I suppose Hillary would be more zionist and more of a hawk in general (Trump run as isolationist agaisnt her in 2016...).
I feel that Hillary in general would be more liked by the media, while some progressives would had tried to primary her in 2020. Despite that, the pandemic would had favored her.
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