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Spaghetti Cat
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« on: March 04, 2008, 08:50:55 PM »

Anyone have them?
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JohnnyLongtorso
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2008, 10:22:44 PM »

Fred Dailey (R)   13,454   40%   
Jeannette Moll (R)   9,940   29%   
Paul Phillips (R)   7,997   24%   
Beau Bromberg (R)   2,582   8%   

With 64% reporting.

Who's Fred Dailey?
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2008, 11:30:19 PM »

The Hill says that Lyle Larson has defeated Quico Canseco for the GOP nomination in TX-23. Canseco has argued that a non-Hispanic Republican (read: Larson) will struggle to carry this Hispanic-heavy district which straddles the border with Mexico. Because of this primary news, I plan to downgrade the competitiveness of this race.
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2008, 12:00:12 AM »

The Hill says that Lyle Larson has defeated Quico Canseco for the GOP nomination in TX-23. Canseco has argued that a non-Hispanic Republican (read: Larson) will struggle to carry this Hispanic-heavy district which straddles the border with Mexico. Because of this primary news, I plan to downgrade the competitiveness of this race.

I agree, if Clinton's the nominee.

If we've got Obama, you should move that one up as fast as IL-10.
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2008, 12:18:16 AM »

I agree, if Clinton's the nominee.

If we've got Obama, you should move that one up as fast as IL-10.

On what basis?

I suspect that given the high profile of border and immigration issues these days, Hispanic voters aren't going to sit an election out because Obama is the nominee. Besides, I thought the argument was that a Clinton candidacy would bring out conservative Republicans who would other give the election a pass.
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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2008, 12:25:19 AM »
« Edited: March 05, 2008, 12:44:32 AM by MarkWarner08 »

Kirk Schuring, the NRCC's handpicked candidate in OH-16, is currently trailing  perennial candidate Matt Miller with 88% of the vote in. If Miller wins the primary, this  race moves to Tossup/Tilts Democratic.

Edit: Schuring narrowly won. The GOP dodged a bullet here.
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2008, 01:06:03 AM »

I agree, if Clinton's the nominee.

If we've got Obama, you should move that one up as fast as IL-10.

On what basis?

I suspect that given the high profile of border and immigration issues these days, Hispanic voters aren't going to sit an election out because Obama is the nominee. Besides, I thought the argument was that a Clinton candidacy would bring out conservative Republicans who would other give the election a pass.

Look, I don't mean to be blunt, but I know the border counties and urban barrio areas in Texas, and you don't.  Smiley  Northwest SA is going to show up regardless of who the Dem is.
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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2008, 09:14:34 AM »


Look, I don't mean to be blunt, but I know the border counties and urban barrio areas in Texas, and you don't.  Smiley  Northwest SA is going to show up regardless of who the Dem is.

Fair enough. Smiley

However, it looks like Northwest SA didn't show up in the runoff in 2006.
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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2008, 11:19:25 AM »


Look, I don't mean to be blunt, but I know the border counties and urban barrio areas in Texas, and you don't.  Smiley  Northwest SA is going to show up regardless of who the Dem is.

Fair enough. Smiley

However, it looks like Northwest SA didn't show up in the runoff in 2006.

That is correct.  Even with that "not showing up", Ciro only got 54%.  Granted, Bonilla always had the Hispanic factor to help him a bit.
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2008, 04:00:38 PM »

I agree, if Clinton's the nominee.

If we've got Obama, you should move that one up as fast as IL-10.

On what basis?

I suspect that given the high profile of border and immigration issues these days, Hispanic voters aren't going to sit an election out because Obama is the nominee. Besides, I thought the argument was that a Clinton candidacy would bring out conservative Republicans who would other give the election a pass.

Look, I don't mean to be blunt, but I know the border counties and urban barrio areas in Texas, and you don't.  Smiley  Northwest SA is going to show up regardless of who the Dem is.


will utsa's location help?
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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2008, 04:31:39 PM »


(puts on Democratic "I see racism everywhere" hat)

Because blacks and Hispanics traditionally don't like each other.

(takes off Democratic "I see racism everywhere" hat)
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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2008, 04:33:51 PM »


(puts on Democratic "I see racism everywhere" hat)

Because blacks and Hispanics traditionally don't like each other.

(takes off Democratic "I see racism everywhere" hat)

Here, it's not really about racism, it's about turnout (though they are somewhat connected).  If there's 2004-like turnout in TX-23, Ciro won't survive.
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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2008, 04:59:24 PM »


(puts on Democratic "I see racism everywhere" hat)

Because blacks and Hispanics traditionally don't like each other.

(takes off Democratic "I see racism everywhere" hat)

Here, it's not really about racism, it's about turnout (though they are somewhat connected).  If there's 2004-like turnout in TX-23, Ciro won't survive.

Is this with Obama at the top of the ticket that he couldn't survive?  Im not sure about that.  Ron Kirk(who is black) did carry this district in 2002 even as he was losing badly statewide. 
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2008, 04:31:23 PM »

most folks thought moll or philips would win.  dailey was a bit of a surprise
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