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« Reply #1150 on: February 20, 2011, 04:08:19 PM »


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« Reply #1151 on: February 21, 2011, 08:58:36 PM »
« Edited: February 21, 2011, 10:04:19 PM by tb75 »

Now, with the childishness out of the way, i now present  a bill.:

High School Sports Injury Prevention Act:

1.   Each athlete who wants to play Football must be fitted for a knee brace.  Any other athlete in other sports who want one must tell the school's athletic director

2.   If an athlete is injured, regardless of being in a game or practice will be taken in an ambulance to a local hospital.

3.   In order to return to play,  the player must be cleared by an orthopedic doctor.
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« Reply #1152 on: February 21, 2011, 09:02:29 PM »

Auto-nay.  I run track.  Trust me, running in a knee brace is no fun.
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« Reply #1153 on: February 21, 2011, 09:05:22 PM »

Now, with the childishness out of the way, i now present  a bill.:

High School Sports Injury Prevention Act:

1.   Each athlete regardless of sport, will be fitted with a custom knee brace. These braces prevent knee injuries, which is the most common sport injury among young athletes.

2.   If an athlete is injured, regardless of being in a game or practice will be taken in an ambulance to a local hospital.

3.   In order to return to play,  the player must be cleared by an orthopedic doctor.


The reason why I created this bill is to bring attention to a growing danger that many athletes, including myself has been dealing with. While the whole part with the braces may cost a little bit of money, but in the long run saves thousands of dollars familes spend on surgery, and rehabiltation.

Please take this into mind when you are debating and voting for this bill. Imagine if you could not do something you love to do, just because no one cares enough to help. That is what this bill would do if passed.
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« Reply #1154 on: February 21, 2011, 09:06:30 PM »

Auto-nay.  I run track.  Trust me, running in a knee brace is no fun.

Well, i have had too knee surgeries and that is no fun. While it may limit athletes it is saving thousands of dollars for families in the long run
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« Reply #1155 on: February 21, 2011, 09:08:32 PM »

Auto-nay.  I run track.  Trust me, running in a knee brace is no fun.

Well, i have had too knee surgeries and that is no fun. While it may limit athletes it is saving thousands of dollars for families in the long run
If people would stretch properly and coaches were smart about what they made their athletes do, this would be nearly as big of a problem.  A good alternative would be raising the hiring standards of coaches.  No more stories of high school freshman dying at summer football camp, please.

I still oppose knee braces on the grounds that they are unnecessary for the vast majority of athletes.  Out of curiosity, what sport do you play?
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« Reply #1156 on: February 21, 2011, 09:10:31 PM »

Auto-nay.  I run track.  Trust me, running in a knee brace is no fun.

Well, i have had too knee surgeries and that is no fun. While it may limit athletes it is saving thousands of dollars for families in the long run
If people would stretch properly and coaches were smart about what they made their athletes do, this would be nearly as big of a problem.  A good alternative would be raising the hiring standards of coaches.  No more stories of high school freshman dying at summer football camp, please.

I still oppose knee braces on the grounds that they are unnecessary for the vast majority of athletes.  Out of curiosity, what sport do you play?

Football. I  was a deffensive lineman for 4 years. BTW, this has nothing to do with deaths
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« Reply #1157 on: February 21, 2011, 09:23:38 PM »

That would be a slow game because it is hard to run with knee braces on...

And if they are seriously injured then of course they will be taken in an ambulance to a hospital...what are we going to do...leave them at the game or practice hurt without giving them any help? lol

When i was hurt I never got any help, neither did any other athlete at my school. College players have braces on and they do fine. You never played athletics, so you have no mouth to run
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« Reply #1158 on: February 21, 2011, 09:29:57 PM »

Auto-nay.  I run track.  Trust me, running in a knee brace is no fun.

Well, i have had too knee surgeries and that is no fun. While it may limit athletes it is saving thousands of dollars for families in the long run
If people would stretch properly and coaches were smart about what they made their athletes do, this would be nearly as big of a problem.  A good alternative would be raising the hiring standards of coaches.  No more stories of high school freshman dying at summer football camp, please.

I still oppose knee braces on the grounds that they are unnecessary for the vast majority of athletes.  Out of curiosity, what sport do you play?

Football. I  was a deffensive lineman for 4 years. BTW, this has nothing to do with deaths
Cool.  And yeah, I kind of got carried away there.

I agree, injuries do need to be handled better.  I just don't think this is the right way to go about it.  I would support athletes playing certain positions on football teams to where mandatory knee braces but with many sport this has no real benefits and a lot of drawbacks.  Consider the catcher in baseball who is already covered in pads or the sprinter who can't afford to be slowed down by it.

This is one of those situations where a blanket approach will not work.

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« Reply #1159 on: February 21, 2011, 09:34:24 PM »

Auto-nay.  I run track.  Trust me, running in a knee brace is no fun.

Well, i have had too knee surgeries and that is no fun. While it may limit athletes it is saving thousands of dollars for families in the long run
If people would stretch properly and coaches were smart about what they made their athletes do, this would be nearly as big of a problem.  A good alternative would be raising the hiring standards of coaches.  No more stories of high school freshman dying at summer football camp, please.

I still oppose knee braces on the grounds that they are unnecessary for the vast majority of athletes.  Out of curiosity, what sport do you play?

Football. I  was a deffensive lineman for 4 years. BTW, this has nothing to do with deaths
Cool.  And yeah, I kind of got carried away there.

I agree, injuries do need to be handled better.  I just don't think this is the right way to go about it.  I would support athletes playing certain positions on football teams to where mandatory knee braces but with many sport this has no real benefits and a lot of drawbacks.  Consider the catcher in baseball who is already covered in pads or the sprinter who can't afford to be slowed down by it.

This is one of those situations where a blanket approach will not work.

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My school is awfully and helping injured athletes. The trainer does not even know what to do. Anyway, I can edit the law for just certain sports
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« Reply #1160 on: February 21, 2011, 09:37:02 PM »

If the humble Viceroy may offer his opinion....

I play track as well, and my mile is bad enough, so I would oppose the first clause out of hand. I realize the necessity to make it an option, but why make it mandatory?

As for the second one, I could agree. At my schools football games there is always an ambulance, I thought that was standard practice, if it isn't it should definitely be remedied.

The third one....yeah that makes sense.
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« Reply #1161 on: February 21, 2011, 09:45:36 PM »

Auto-nay.  I run track.  Trust me, running in a knee brace is no fun.

Well, i have had too knee surgeries and that is no fun. While it may limit athletes it is saving thousands of dollars for families in the long run
If people would stretch properly and coaches were smart about what they made their athletes do, this would be nearly as big of a problem.  A good alternative would be raising the hiring standards of coaches.  No more stories of high school freshman dying at summer football camp, please.

I still oppose knee braces on the grounds that they are unnecessary for the vast majority of athletes.  Out of curiosity, what sport do you play?

Football. I  was a deffensive lineman for 4 years. BTW, this has nothing to do with deaths
Cool.  And yeah, I kind of got carried away there.

I agree, injuries do need to be handled better.  I just don't think this is the right way to go about it.  I would support athletes playing certain positions on football teams to where mandatory knee braces but with many sport this has no real benefits and a lot of drawbacks.  Consider the catcher in baseball who is already covered in pads or the sprinter who can't afford to be slowed down by it.

This is one of those situations where a blanket approach will not work.

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My school is awfully and helping injured athletes. The trainer does not even know what to do. Anyway, I can edit the law for just certain sports
I just think its a shame the fact that some of this childish behaivor in this legislature recently could affect politics in the next month or so is a shame...lets just focus on debating the issues and fighting for the people that we represent and that sent us here...and drop this childish back and forth behaivor...

What does that got to do with anything?
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« Reply #1162 on: February 21, 2011, 09:46:23 PM »

How about this, I will pull the bill re-edit it, and then star over. How does that sound?
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« Reply #1163 on: February 21, 2011, 09:53:25 PM »

If the humble Viceroy may offer his opinion....

I play track as well, and my mile is bad enough, so I would oppose the first clause out of hand. I realize the necessity to make it an option, but why make it mandatory?

As for the second one, I could agree. At my schools football games there is always an ambulance, I thought that was standard practice, if it isn't it should definitely be remedied.

The third one....yeah that makes sense.

     The issue with making the brace optional is that in a sport that emphasizes speed such as track, there is no way that anyone would volunteer to handicap themselves in such a fashion. If you want to go that route, I'd suggest having two different classes of competition: one with a brace & one without a brace.
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« Reply #1164 on: February 21, 2011, 09:55:50 PM »

If the humble Viceroy may offer his opinion....

I play track as well, and my mile is bad enough, so I would oppose the first clause out of hand. I realize the necessity to make it an option, but why make it mandatory?

As for the second one, I could agree. At my schools football games there is always an ambulance, I thought that was standard practice, if it isn't it should definitely be remedied.

The third one....yeah that makes sense.

     The issue with making the brace optional is that in a sport that emphasizes speed such as track, there is no way that anyone would volunteer to handicap themselves in such a fashion. If you want to go that route, I'd suggest having two different classes of competition: one with a brace & one without a brace.

Well, looking back i should have changed it to a requirement for football, and an option for other sports
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« Reply #1165 on: February 21, 2011, 10:01:39 PM »

If the humble Viceroy may offer his opinion....

I play track as well, and my mile is bad enough, so I would oppose the first clause out of hand. I realize the necessity to make it an option, but why make it mandatory?

As for the second one, I could agree. At my schools football games there is always an ambulance, I thought that was standard practice, if it isn't it should definitely be remedied.

The third one....yeah that makes sense.

     The issue with making the brace optional is that in a sport that emphasizes speed such as track, there is no way that anyone would volunteer to handicap themselves in such a fashion. If you want to go that route, I'd suggest having two different classes of competition: one with a brace & one without a brace.

Well, looking back i should have changed it to a requirement for football, and an option for other sports

Oh well, that's why the edit button was made Wink + Tongue
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« Reply #1166 on: February 21, 2011, 10:04:51 PM »

If the humble Viceroy may offer his opinion....

I play track as well, and my mile is bad enough, so I would oppose the first clause out of hand. I realize the necessity to make it an option, but why make it mandatory?

As for the second one, I could agree. At my schools football games there is always an ambulance, I thought that was standard practice, if it isn't it should definitely be remedied.

The third one....yeah that makes sense.

     The issue with making the brace optional is that in a sport that emphasizes speed such as track, there is no way that anyone would volunteer to handicap themselves in such a fashion. If you want to go that route, I'd suggest having two different classes of competition: one with a brace & one without a brace.

Well, looking back i should have changed it to a requirement for football, and an option for other sports

     Well, that depends on the position & the player. If you're a small, speedy halfback, having to wear a brace robs you of your competitive edge. Even if everyone else is handicapped in the same manner, you won't be nearly as good at outmaneuvering defenses when they have that much more time to react to your moves.
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« Reply #1167 on: February 21, 2011, 10:05:59 PM »

If the humble Viceroy may offer his opinion....

I play track as well, and my mile is bad enough, so I would oppose the first clause out of hand. I realize the necessity to make it an option, but why make it mandatory?

As for the second one, I could agree. At my schools football games there is always an ambulance, I thought that was standard practice, if it isn't it should definitely be remedied.

The third one....yeah that makes sense.

     The issue with making the brace optional is that in a sport that emphasizes speed such as track, there is no way that anyone would volunteer to handicap themselves in such a fashion. If you want to go that route, I'd suggest having two different classes of competition: one with a brace & one without a brace.

Well, looking back i should have changed it to a requirement for football, and an option for other sports

     Well, that depends on the position & the player. If you're a small, speedy halfback, having to wear a brace robs you of your competitive edge. Even if everyone else is handicapped in the same manner, you won't be nearly as good at outmaneuvering defenses when they have that much more time to react to your moves.

I will re-edit and post a new bill tomorrow. I have no more time left tonight to do it
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« Reply #1168 on: February 21, 2011, 10:10:08 PM »

If the humble Viceroy may offer his opinion....

I play track as well, and my mile is bad enough, so I would oppose the first clause out of hand. I realize the necessity to make it an option, but why make it mandatory?

As for the second one, I could agree. At my schools football games there is always an ambulance, I thought that was standard practice, if it isn't it should definitely be remedied.

The third one....yeah that makes sense.

     The issue with making the brace optional is that in a sport that emphasizes speed such as track, there is no way that anyone would volunteer to handicap themselves in such a fashion. If you want to go that route, I'd suggest having two different classes of competition: one with a brace & one without a brace.

Well, looking back i should have changed it to a requirement for football, and an option for other sports

     Well, that depends on the position & the player. If you're a small, speedy halfback, having to wear a brace robs you of your competitive edge. Even if everyone else is handicapped in the same manner, you won't be nearly as good at outmaneuvering defenses when they have that much more time to react to your moves.

I will re-edit and post a new bill tomorrow. I have no more time left tonight to do it

     It's alright. I can't remember the last time all three Legislators, the Viceroy, & the Emperor have been this involved in debating a bill. Smiley
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« Reply #1169 on: February 22, 2011, 03:57:46 PM »

I would like to re-submit this bill:

High School Sports Injury Prevention Act:

1.   Any offensive or defensive lineman who play high school football must be fitted for a custom knee brace. Any other athlete will have an option for one.

2.   If an athlete is injured, regardless of being in a game or practice will be taken in an ambulance to a local hospital.

3.   In order to return to play,  the player must be cleared by an orthopedic doctor.
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« Reply #1170 on: February 22, 2011, 05:56:07 PM »

Much better.  I offer the below as a friendly amendment.  If anyone has any suggestions on how the region might pay for them (a sin tax, maybe?) please speak up.

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« Reply #1171 on: February 22, 2011, 06:15:36 PM »

Much better.  I offer the below as a friendly amendment.  If anyone has any suggestions on how the region might pay for them (a sin tax, maybe?) please speak up.

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« Reply #1172 on: February 22, 2011, 06:28:57 PM »

Much better.  I offer the below as a friendly amendment.  If anyone has any suggestions on how the region might pay for them (a sin tax, maybe?) please speak up.

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What sin taxes do we have?
I think there is a tax on alcohol and tobacco along with a fee for getting a drivers license.  How about a sin tax on Marijuana since, according to PiT, pot is legal here.
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« Reply #1173 on: February 22, 2011, 06:34:08 PM »

Much better.  I offer the below as a friendly amendment.  If anyone has any suggestions on how the region might pay for them (a sin tax, maybe?) please speak up.

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What sin taxes do we have?
I think there is a tax on alcohol and tobacco along with a fee for getting a drivers license.  How about a sin tax on Marijuana since, according to PiT, pot is legal here.

That could work, as along as everyone else agrees
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« Reply #1174 on: February 22, 2011, 06:42:10 PM »

How is this?

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