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BudgieForce
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« on: August 20, 2017, 09:26:24 AM »

It should be noted that NBC News/Marist had Hillary winning PA by 12 points in mid-October.

As we know, Trump won by almost a point.

NBC didn't poll MI and WI in 2016.

Hillary was probably ahead by a decent amount in PA around mid-October. If your trying to tell us that Marist is inaccurate because of 2016, well then we wouldn't be able to trust most pollsters going forward, would we?
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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2017, 09:32:46 AM »

It should be noted that NBC News/Marist had Hillary winning PA by 12 points in mid-October.

As we know, Trump won by almost a point.

NBC didn't poll MI and WI in 2016.

Hillary was probably ahead by a decent amount in PA around mid-October. If your trying to tell us that Marist is inaccurate because of 2016, well then we wouldn't be able to trust most pollsters going forward, would we?

I'm not trying to say that Marist is necessarily inaccurate (they also had some good results, such as in AZ).

On the other hand, they also flopped badly in NC (predicting a 6-point Hillary win there), in a poll just a few days before election day (she lost by 3 or 4).

So it's possible that Trump's approval is actually at 40-42% in these 3 states right now ... who knows ?

I see no reason to believe any pollster is underestimating Trump's support, especially now since they are hyper aware of the polling failure that was 2016.
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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2017, 05:07:47 PM »

2016 exit polls Trump fav/unfav.  WI 35/64.  PA 42/56. MI 39/59. This poll is all adults and not even LV.  It seems Trump gained a bit of ground since election night.

Im not sure what your implying. An unpopular incumbent is not the same as an unpopular candidate.
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2017, 05:09:56 PM »

2016 exit polls Trump fav/unfav.  WI 35/64.  PA 42/56. MI 39/59. This poll is all adults and not even LV.  It seems Trump gained a bit of ground since election night.

Exactly. Why is it so hard to understand that people will still vote for someone they dislike if the other person is seen as worse?

If you can name me a potential candidate with likability ratings similar to Hillary, then you have a point. But as of now, even polarizing Elizabeth Warren isnt anywhere near Hillary levels.
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