The Federalist Party of Atlasia: February 2014 Convention

[DC Al Fine]

Official Ballot:
Party Chairman:
[2] Devin (F-WA)
[1] North Carolina Yankee (F-NC)

Vice Chairman:
[1] Dereich (F-MS)
[2] JohanusCalvinusLibertas (F-IN)

Official ballot:
[4] Adam Griffin (LAB-DE)
[3] Cincinnatus (I-NY)
[1] Lumine (PRO-MT)
[2] Poirot (I-NY)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Remember, the Senate endorsement vote is still ongoing and will end later tonight. If you haven't voted on that, please do so as soon as possible.

I am reposting the ballots in this post:

I am including all the declared candidates since we don't have time for a nomination/declaration period for this.

At-Large Senate Seat #2 (Tmthforu94 seat) Special Election Endorsement Vote

Official ballot:
[ ] Adam Griffin (LAB-DE)
[ ] Cincinnatus (I-NY)
[ ] Lumine (PRO-MT)
[ ] Poirot (I-NY)

This vote will last for 48 hours.

Keep in mind that the Leadership election will be tomorrow night and will run for 72 hours from then. So keep them clearly seperated and indicate what you are voting for.

Federalist Party Leadership Elections Feb 27-Mar 2nd

Official Ballot:
Party Chairman:
[  ] Devin (F-WA)
[  ] North Carolina Yankee (F-NC)

Vice Chairman:
[  ] Dereich (F-MS)
[  ] JohanusCalvinusLibertas (F-IN)

The election shall begin immediately and end 72 hours from now.

Turnout So Far:
Goldwater - Both
Hagrid - Senate only
TJ - both
Spamage -both
Devin - both
Dereich - Senate only
PiT - both
Cris - Senate only
JCL - Senate Only
Ben - both
Tmth - leadership only
Miles - both
Pingvin - both
Duke - Leadership only
Matt - both
MasterJedi - both
Devin - both
Rooney -leadership only
DC al Fine - both

I think the results currently are NC Yankee 14-0  Dereich 8-6  and Lumine by ah a lot.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Lumine is in the lead 12-4 I think with about two hours remaining.

Official ballot:
[ 4 ] Adam Griffin (LAB-DE)
[ 1 ] Cincinnatus (I-NY)
[ 2 ] Lumine (PRO-MT)
[ 3 ] Poirot (I-NY)


Make that 12-5.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I feel like JCL would be treated better if he joined Labor

[Enderman]

Official Ballot:
Party Chairman:
[2] Devin (F-WA)
[1] North Carolina Yankee (F-NC)

Vice Chairman:
[1] Dereich (F-MS)
[2] JohanusCalvinusLibertas (F-IN)

Official ballot:
[4] Adam Griffin (LAB-DE)
[3] Cincinnatus (I-NY)

[1] Lumine (PRO-MT)
[2] Poirot (I-NY)


Sorry for the late vote! also...

I feel like JCL would be treated better if he joined Labor

I doubt that it would happen (TNF, Gass, etc.)

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Official Ballot:
Party Chairman:
[2] Devin (F-WA)
[1] North Carolina Yankee (F-NC)

Vice Chairman:
[1] Dereich (F-MS)
[2] JohanusCalvinusLibertas (F-IN)

Official ballot:
[4] Adam Griffin (LAB-DE)
[3] Cincinnatus (I-NY)

[1] Lumine (PRO-MT)
[2] Poirot (I-NY)


Sorry for the late vote! also...

I feel like JCL would be treated better if he joined Labor

I doubt that it would happen (TNF, Gass, etc.)

We may have our ideological disagreements, but we wouldn't shove a loyal, rank-and-file Laborite out of the way just because the powers that be decide some candidate in the other party was more "electable."  I'm just kinda surprised he doesn't mind constantly being thrown under the bus, I know I would.  But that's just me

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

I do mind X. But if they're not ready to support me, they're not ready.

[President Tyrion]

I'm quite surprised that JCL didn't get an automatic endorsement, or, more specifically, that the bylaws don't ensure such a thing.

[Cincinnatus]

I'm quite surprised that JCL didn't get an automatic endorsement, or, more specifically, that the bylaws don't ensure such a thing.

He would have, had he remained in the race.

[President Tyrion]

I'm quite surprised that JCL didn't get an automatic endorsement, or, more specifically, that the bylaws don't ensure such a thing.

He would have, had he remained in the race.

My, I wasn't even invited to the gun show, but I can sure appreciate strong arms when I see them.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Yeah, Cinci is right. Automatic endorsements occur after a set time (we don't want to automatically endorse a bunch of candidates for just one seat... the timeline allows us to run primaries in the case of multiple Federalist candidates or hold an endorsement vote if none run). Had JCL remained in the race, he would have been automatically endorsed. The endorsement vote in this thread began after he withdrew. 

That being said, I do appreciate the desperation y'all must be feeling to come in here and ruffle  feathers. Reminds me of my strategy with the CARCA (?) thread. Good times.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Yeah, Cinci is right. Automatic endorsements occur after a set time (we don't want to automatically endorse a bunch of candidates for just one seat... the timeline allows us to run primaries in the case of multiple Federalist candidates or hold an endorsement vote if none run). Had JCL remained in the race, he would have been automatically endorsed. The endorsement vote in this thread began after he withdrew. 

That being said, I do appreciate the desperation y'all must be feeling to come in here and ruffle  feathers. Reminds me of my strategy with the CARCA (?) thread. Good times.

So what your saying is the Federalist vision for game reform is to disrupt efforts at reform instead of offering its own vision?

[Associate Justice PiT]

Yeah, Cinci is right. Automatic endorsements occur after a set time (we don't want to automatically endorse a bunch of candidates for just one seat... the timeline allows us to run primaries in the case of multiple Federalist candidates or hold an endorsement vote if none run). Had JCL remained in the race, he would have been automatically endorsed. The endorsement vote in this thread began after he withdrew. 

That being said, I do appreciate the desperation y'all must be feeling to come in here and ruffle  feathers. Reminds me of my strategy with the CARCA (?) thread. Good times.

So what your saying is the Federalist vision for game reform is to disrupt efforts at reform instead of offering its own vision?

     That's irrelevant to his point, unless you mean to say that your only reason for being here is to disrupt our convention.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Yeah, Cinci is right. Automatic endorsements occur after a set time (we don't want to automatically endorse a bunch of candidates for just one seat... the timeline allows us to run primaries in the case of multiple Federalist candidates or hold an endorsement vote if none run). Had JCL remained in the race, he would have been automatically endorsed. The endorsement vote in this thread began after he withdrew. 

That being said, I do appreciate the desperation y'all must be feeling to come in here and ruffle  feathers. Reminds me of my strategy with the CARCA (?) thread. Good times.

So what your saying is the Federalist vision for game reform is to disrupt efforts at reform instead of offering its own vision?

     That's irrelevant to his point, unless you mean to say that your only reason for being here is to disrupt our convention.

I'm not trying to disrupt your convention, I was just making what seemed like an interesting observation (originally just an innocent tongue-in-cheek joke).  You guys are the ones keeping this thing going   Another interesting observation I just made is that you never denied that I was right in saying that the Federalist vision for game reform is to disrupt efforts at reform instead of offering its own vision.

[Adam Griffin]

Another interesting observation I just made is that you never denied that I was right in saying that the Federalist vision for game reform is to disrupt efforts at reform instead of offering its own vision.

That has been painfully obvious for some time. I'm wholly convinced that they don't even care about winning anymore, so long as they stop what I can only imagine from their perspective is an "unstoppable threat" to the game. Otherwise, I wouldn't still be going about discussing the utter lack of ideas or vision of said entity; apparently fresh ideas can't change the trajectory in their eyes and they've just given up.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Settle down, folks. I've been working on some proposals, but I have been feign to put them forth because I know that Labor will certainly reject them. If Federalist game reform is that important to all y'all, maybe I'll write my Senator.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

     Settle down, folks. I've been working on some proposals, but I have been feign to put them forth because I know that Labor will certainly reject them. If Federalist game reform is that important to all y'all, maybe I'll write my Senator.

I think I speak for all Laborites when I say I'd love to finally hear some Federalist game reform proposals

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

When is the Labor Party going to stop running away with blatantly false narratives?


Lumine got in, JCL dropped out and endorsed him. No Federalist candidate, hence the need for an endorsement vote. Something, which JCL pushed for as well I recall.

This especially blatant, BECAUSE IT ALL WAS POSTED PUBLICALLY IN THIS THREAD, MR. X. 

Please read before guessing next time.

[Associate Justice PiT]

    Settle down, folks. I've been working on some proposals, but I have been feign to put them forth because I know that Labor will certainly reject them. If Federalist game reform is that important to all y'all, maybe I'll write my Senator.

I think I speak for all Laborites when I say I'd love to finally hear some Federalist game reform proposals

     I should caution that any proposals are my own and I am not actually qualified to speak for the Federalist Party. I am just a member, with ideas of my own.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

    Settle down, folks. I've been working on some proposals, but I have been feign to put them forth because I know that Labor will certainly reject them. If Federalist game reform is that important to all y'all, maybe I'll write my Senator.

I think I speak for all Laborites when I say I'd love to finally hear some Federalist game reform proposals

     I should caution that any proposals are my own and I am not actually qualified to speak for the Federalist Party. I am just a member, with ideas of my own.

At least we'll finally be able to debate the merits of two actual visions (I hope ). 

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Settle down, folks. I've been working on some proposals, but I have been feign to put them forth because I know that Labor will certainly reject them. If Federalist game reform is that important to all y'all, maybe I'll write my Senator.

I think I speak for all Laborites when I say I'd love to finally hear some Federalist game reform proposals

     I should caution that any proposals are my own and I am not actually qualified to speak for the Federalist Party. I am just a member, with ideas of my own.

At least we'll finally be able to debate the merits of two actual visions (I hope ). 

     Let me just say that there is a certain bill of yours that I like, for reasons altogether different from the ones that I'm guessing led you to propose it.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Another interesting observation I just made is that you never denied that I was right in saying that the Federalist vision for game reform is to disrupt efforts at reform instead of offering its own vision.

That has been painfully obvious for some time. I'm wholly convinced that they don't even care about winning anymore, so long as they stop what I can only imagine from their perspective is an "unstoppable threat" to the game. Otherwise, I wouldn't still be going about discussing the utter lack of ideas or vision of said entity; apparently fresh ideas can't change the trajectory in their eyes and they've just given up.

Or Perhaps it is that Labor has run the well dry and is increasingly relying on pushing some rather far left ideas and then covering that fact when they are thus rejected with references and vague cannotions seeking to fan the flames of built up real life political resentments in order to attain the support of people who would be very unlikely to support such proposals directly.

Maybe that is the real problem. Sooner or later you run out of proposals or problems to fix at the Federal Level and soon you have a boring game where there is nothing left to be fought over, particuarly at the lower levels. So we contract and abolish them I suppose, having them been so undermined either intentionally or not, no? And then when the same thing spreads to the Federal level, then what, restart time?

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

     Settle down, folks. I've been working on some proposals, but I have been feign to put them forth because I know that Labor will certainly reject them. If Federalist game reform is that important to all y'all, maybe I'll write my Senator.

I think I speak for all Laborites when I say I'd love to finally hear some Federalist game reform proposals

     I should caution that any proposals are my own and I am not actually qualified to speak for the Federalist Party. I am just a member, with ideas of my own.

At least we'll finally be able to debate the merits of two actual visions (I hope ). 

     Let me just say that there is a certain bill of yours that I like, for reasons altogether different from the ones that I'm guessing led you to propose it.

Thanks  Best not say that too loudly though, wouldn't want it getting out that you're sympathetic to the Radical Gay Communist Laborite Revolutionary Agenda

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

And on that note, Adam, you wouldn't by any change support Mr. X's Regional Exemption Act?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Labors problem on game reform is that it is too compartmentalized or siloed perhaps. It approaches it in isolation from the other issues and expects to just past something to fix it. That isn't how it works. You have to foment activity and I would be happy to have a debate on that with you.

Which issues are you willing to leave within the responsbility of Regional Governments so as to attract interest and activity?