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Tender Branson
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« Reply #50 on: January 02, 2016, 12:21:33 PM »

I nailed it.


I think based on the number of contributions/average donation, Sanders raised about 30-35 million $.

33 Mio. $ is not that bad, especially because you basically don't need any money for IA, NH, NV and SC.
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« Reply #51 on: January 02, 2016, 12:23:39 PM »


Why is that funny? I think it is rather impressive for a candidate like him. He's the second best fundraiser of the season. Not bad if you ask me. Yes, it pales in comparison to Clinton's $55 million ($37 of which is for her campaign), but still impressive.

Well, considering how many people have been hyping Bernie's Q4 fundraising numbers and predicting his surpassing of Hillary (those people include her campaign), I take solace in the crotchety socialist falling $5 million short.
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« Reply #52 on: January 02, 2016, 12:23:52 PM »
« Edited: January 02, 2016, 12:27:48 PM by Castro »

Tbh the only reason we're surprised at Sanders only getting that "little" is because of how impressive Clinton's haul was, and the expectations game that her campaign played. For primary usage and practical spending purposes, he's only down $4 million for the quarter.
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« Reply #53 on: January 02, 2016, 12:24:35 PM »


Why is that funny? I think it is rather impressive for a candidate like him. He's the second best fundraiser of the season. Not bad if you ask me. Yes, it pales in comparison to Clinton's $55 million ($37 of which is for her campaign), but still impressive.

Well, considering how many people have been hyping Bernie's Q4 fundraising numbers and predicting his surpassing of Hillary (those people include her campaign), I take solace in the crotchety socialist falling $5 million short.

Alright, I'll give you that one, but you have to admit it is impressive.
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« Reply #54 on: January 02, 2016, 12:31:35 PM »
« Edited: January 02, 2016, 01:03:16 PM by Likely Voter »

I agree. The Sanders number is coming in around expectations and is impressive on its own, Clinton was just surprisingly big. Her team played expectations game well. I suspect that a lot of big dem money that was sitting on the sidelines waiting for Biden's decision came her way, and the Benghazi hearing helped her with small donors.

Now the drama moves to who is winning the race for the 'mainstream' pack of Bush, Rubio, Kasich and Christie. And then there will be the curiosity of how much Trump is bringing in (and how much he is putting in himself). And then the schadenfreude over how broke everyone else is.

Also being that it is another half-year, all the Super PACs have to announce their numbers. Remember 6 months ago is when Bush 'shocked and awed' with his $100m...how much of that is really left and how much more did they pick up?  I suspect that Cruz' Super PACs may be the big winner of the second half of the year. Plus is Clinton's Super PAC finally picking up steam?
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« Reply #55 on: January 02, 2016, 12:33:52 PM »

The cash-on-hand figures @ Dec. 31:

38.0 Mio. $ - Hillary
28.4 Mio. $ - Bernie
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« Reply #56 on: January 02, 2016, 12:41:44 PM »

The cash-on-hand figures @ Dec. 31:

38.0 Mio. $ - Hillary
28.4 Mio. $ - Bernie

So both spent ~$32m for the quarter, which means Bernie has a burn rate close to 100%
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« Reply #57 on: January 02, 2016, 12:43:58 PM »

The cash-on-hand figures @ Dec. 31:

38.0 Mio. $ - Hillary
28.4 Mio. $ - Bernie

So both spent ~$32m for the quarter, which means Bernie has a burn rate close to 100%

Pretty natural, since Clinton poured a lot of money into organizing in Q2 and Q3 - while the Sanders campain only started to staff up in Q4 (mostly in the Super Tuesday states).
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« Reply #58 on: January 02, 2016, 12:47:04 PM »
« Edited: January 02, 2016, 12:50:13 PM by Holmes »

I nailed it.


I think based on the number of contributions/average donation, Sanders raised about 30-35 million $.

33 Mio. $ is not that bad, especially because you basically don't need any money for IA, NH, NV and SC.

It's not exactly nailing it when your prediction was a margin of $5 million.

And Castro raises a good point - $33m is pretty good, especially for a primary quarter, but Hillary did just so great. Much better than what the Republicans have raised, anyway. And hopefully a lot of those donors still donate during the general. I think one of the reasons for Bernie's high burn rate is probably due to his inexperienced campaign spending a lot of money on consultants or focus groups.
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« Reply #59 on: January 02, 2016, 12:48:14 PM »

The average Sanders donation was $27.16, there was a year total of 2,513,665 individual contributions, and passed 1 million individual donors.
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« Reply #60 on: January 02, 2016, 02:03:59 PM »

Excellent news! Clinton exceeded expectations!

I'm sure Sandernistas will find a conspiracy in this somehow.
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« Reply #61 on: January 02, 2016, 02:23:39 PM »

Excellent news! Clinton exceeded expectations!

I'm sure Sandernistas will find a conspiracy in this somehow.

You realize that 99.9% of this Sandernista stuff being complained about is solely from two posters on this forum right? It's getting pretty old, and is kind of annoying when productive discussion is taking place.
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« Reply #62 on: January 02, 2016, 02:33:10 PM »

Excellent news! Clinton exceeded expectations!

I'm sure Sandernistas will find a conspiracy in this somehow.

You realize that 99.9% of this Sandernista stuff being complained about is solely from two posters on this forum right? It's getting pretty old, and is kind of annoying when productive discussion is taking place.

Not true, this extends to a general thing I see with Bernie Sanders supporters. I see it on AAD, and I saw it in Ron Paul supporters as well.

But let's discuss the topic on hand - this is incredibly solid numbers for both Sanders and Clinton. Both will be able to battle it out long into the cycle. Hopefully it doesn't come to that but the enthusiasm is good for the Democratic party.
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« Reply #63 on: January 02, 2016, 03:10:49 PM »

Excellent news! Clinton exceeded expectations!

I'm sure Sandernistas will find a conspiracy in this somehow.

You realize that 99.9% of this Sandernista stuff being complained about is solely from two posters on this forum right? It's getting pretty old, and is kind of annoying when productive discussion is taking place.

Not true, this extends to a general thing I see with Bernie Sanders supporters. I see it on AAD, and I saw it in Ron Paul supporters as well.

But let's discuss the topic on hand - this is incredibly solid numbers for both Sanders and Clinton. Both will be able to battle it out long into the cycle. Hopefully it doesn't come to that but the enthusiasm is good for the Democratic party.

Money doesn't buy or correlate with enthusiasm. Fundraising means little when the base is less motivated to vote.
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« Reply #64 on: January 02, 2016, 05:43:36 PM »

Tbh the only reason we're surprised at Sanders only getting that "little" is because of how impressive Clinton's haul was, and the expectations game that her campaign played. For primary usage and practical spending purposes, he's only down $4 million for the quarter.

And by expectations game, the Hillary campaign lied about being outraised by Bernie.
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« Reply #65 on: January 02, 2016, 05:51:01 PM »

It's not crazy to think you're being outraised when every other day, the other campaign is shouting "we got a million more new donations!"
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« Reply #66 on: January 02, 2016, 06:10:46 PM »

And by expectations game, the Hillary campaign lied about being outraised by Bernie.
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« Reply #67 on: January 02, 2016, 06:48:38 PM »

I would make a comment on this, but I feel like this Hillary-Bernie debate will get ugly, so I'm staying out of it.
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« Reply #68 on: January 02, 2016, 07:09:00 PM »

This isn't really a Hillary v.s. Bernie situation. Both are Democrats that are similar enough on most of the issues that matter, and the great fundraising numbers for both should be pleasant news for any Democrat hoping to win the 2016 election. Be happy that Rubio and Bush combined may have raised less than Carson.
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« Reply #69 on: January 02, 2016, 07:17:11 PM »

Not to worry; Jeb can fix it.
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« Reply #70 on: January 02, 2016, 07:19:52 PM »

And by expectations game, the Hillary campaign lied about being outraised by Bernie.
LMAO

Can you please stop quoting jfern? I have him on ignore and I like not seeing his inane posts.
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« Reply #71 on: January 02, 2016, 11:39:21 PM »
« Edited: January 02, 2016, 11:48:26 PM by EliteLX »

DOMINATING: Clinton raises $37 million Q4 for her campaign and an additional $18 million for the Democratic Party!

Truly impressive, considering that Clinton, unlike Sanders, does not rely on the donations of rich college students with no expenses who are living off their parents, but instead on hard-working minorities, women and olds, who are struggling to make ends meet. Truly inspirational!

And unlike Sanders, who has disgustingly and selfishly attacked the Democratic Party and blamed the DNC for his campaign's failures, Clinton has raised eighteen million for fellow Democrats!! She understands that if we truly want a political revolution in this country, it will require Democrats winning across the board, rather than just relying on a cult of personality to win the White House.

Sanders has many, many more personal small donations than Hillary proportionally, not to mention your disingenuous broad's top campaign supporters are big banks. Who in the bloody hell wants to personally send Hillary Clinton their hard earned paycheck other than sects of easily-pandered-to under informed identity-politic obsessed single moms & what not?

So silly.
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« Reply #72 on: January 03, 2016, 12:30:13 AM »

Well, the totals are very similar but it is kind of a bummer that Sanders couldn't pull ahead of her this time.

Also, the Sanders campaign lost the spin war by not deflating expectations ahead of time like the Clinton camp did. Unfortunately, that seems to be a recurring theme (Sanders losing the spin war that is).
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« Reply #73 on: January 03, 2016, 01:26:39 AM »

DOMINATING: Clinton raises $37 million Q4 for her campaign and an additional $18 million for the Democratic Party!

Truly impressive, considering that Clinton, unlike Sanders, does not rely on the donations of rich college students with no expenses who are living off their parents, but instead on hard-working minorities, women and olds, who are struggling to make ends meet. Truly inspirational!

And unlike Sanders, who has disgustingly and selfishly attacked the Democratic Party and blamed the DNC for his campaign's failures, Clinton has raised eighteen million for fellow Democrats!! She understands that if we truly want a political revolution in this country, it will require Democrats winning across the board, rather than just relying on a cult of personality to win the White House.

Sanders has many, many more personal small donations than Hillary proportionally, not to mention your disingenuous broad's top campaign supporters are big banks.

You mean mega law firms and cable companies, right?
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« Reply #74 on: January 03, 2016, 03:38:37 AM »

"disingenuous broad"

I know it's fashionable for Atlas posters to hate women, but the sexism in this place is getting pretty ridiculous.
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