SENATE BILL: Executive Department Amendment (Sent to the Regions)

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Maybe we should give the Attorney General a Department while we are at it?

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Was there legislation establishing the dept and office of the Attorney General?

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OK, just so long as it's clear that the AG is a legally a member of the Cabinet.

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Yankee, could you give an example of something the Senate can do now without including this that it would not be able to do with it?

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Aye

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What is the final text?

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NAY

I don't get what we are trying to do here. If the goal is to be able to rename departments, we should just have an amendment saying we can rename the departments.  If it's about some arcane implied powers derived from clause 28, then in that case too I think we need to be more specific and straightforward since very few people are going to be able to understand the supreme court precedents.

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NAY

I don't get what we are trying to do here. If the goal is to be able to rename departments, we should just have an amendment saying we can rename the departments.  If it's about some arcane implied powers derived from clause 28, then in that case too I think we need to be more specific and straightforward since very few people are going to be able to understand the supreme court precedents.

This amendment accomplishes the goal of having "an amendment saying we can rename the departments".  Perhaps that's not as simple as desired, but it is functional.

But what else does it do? Clause 28 is not about naming. Does it allow the Senate to abolish the departments completely?

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I was more focused on other bills, and I was thinking that the clause 28 language was just there to give the Senate a little more ability to define the duties of the positions, so I wasn't so worried about it.  I'm against having a situation where there is a department listed in the constitution while meanwhile the department named there doesn't actually exist. I think any citizen should be able to read the constitution and have a pretty good idea of the current situation as far as how the government is organized.