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« Reply #50 on: August 25, 2016, 06:18:32 PM »

Ban me? Why? For posting Trump's response.

You liberals sure don't like it when someone has an opinion that is not yours....

We're not the ones backing a presidential candidate who wants to curb freedom of expression. But nice try.

The Democrats are far more a threat to Free Speech nowadays than the GOP.

It wasn't always that way.  It is now.

Hate speech is not defensible, nor should it necessarily be protected under the definition of "free speech." Democrats (not even most) only seek to prohibit the utterance of words that would further reinforce hatred, dehumanization, racism, and phobic attitudes, which endanger not only the emotional, but often even the physical well-being of underprivileged groups. European countries apply these restrictions because they've learned from historical precedents that what is seemingly harmless speech, can quickly transform into something worse. Freedom from the dehumanizing and intimidating effects of certain expressions of free speech is a privilege enjoyed by the heterosexual, White male population - not the majority of Americans; thus, why they are the overwhelming majority of people who support nearly unregulated freedom of speech. And also the reason why Republicans are now its most ardent defenders.

Folks have the right to speak freely.

They don't have the right to be received uncritically.

They don't have the right to threaten people with physical harm.

They don't have the right to be in the majority.

Minorities have rights that our system rightly protects.  I'm not just talking race/ethnicity here;  I'm talking everyone who's in the smaller group when a matter is crystallizing into two sides.  Minorities (of all kinds) have the right to express themselves, but they don't have the right to be in the majority, and they don't have the right to have their point of view carry the day, unless it's on an issue where someone is trying to "vote out" someone's INDIVIDUAL rights.  If we can limit their speech, even when it does not threaten or intimidate persons physically, we can limit yours and you all can limit mine.  If we want to be like Saudi Arabia, then, sure, let's trod that path.

Protecting historically vulnerable groups from hate speech will not lead to censorship like that of Saudi Arabia. There is no support for that conclusion; quite the opposite, actually. I am quite confident that Americans and our legal system have enough respect for civil and human rights to differentiate between restrictions on hate speech and restrictions on the speech of other minority groups. Also, while it is true that all people, including minorities, have the right to exercise their freedom of speech for self-expression and we are all entitled to disagree, and verbalize this disagreement, this does not mean the consequences of these rights are felt equally. When free speech is used to target historically vulnerable groups, they suffer disproportionately and incomparably the negative effects of this free expression. Besides, while individual rights are critically important, focusing exclusively on them and ignoring the social and, thereby, group, nature of humans ignores an important aspect of who we are. Individualism, like 'color blindness,' is a privilege not all get to enjoy equally.
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« Reply #51 on: August 25, 2016, 06:32:26 PM »

Minority-shminority.

Equality before the law!
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« Reply #52 on: August 25, 2016, 09:10:58 PM »

Nice try, Hillary....

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« Reply #53 on: August 25, 2016, 09:11:24 PM »

I actually watched this love on WMUR
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« Reply #54 on: August 25, 2016, 09:12:59 PM »

To little, too late, the narrative is already set with tons of evidence to back it up.
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« Reply #55 on: August 25, 2016, 09:14:47 PM »

To little, too late, the narrative is already set with tons of evidence to back it up.
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« Reply #56 on: August 25, 2016, 09:18:15 PM »
« Edited: August 25, 2016, 09:20:21 PM by ProudModerate2 »

Wow.
Asked if he wants votes from white supremacists, trump actually responded with a "No."
That is major news .... who would have thought ?
Thank you for posting this Seriously ..... I really did think that trump would have said Yes.
Fascinating .... just extraordinarily fascinating.
This is going to make the biggest difference ever !
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« Reply #57 on: August 25, 2016, 09:20:25 PM »

I guess he just wants them running his campaign?
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« Reply #58 on: August 25, 2016, 09:25:02 PM »
« Edited: August 25, 2016, 09:31:05 PM by Fmr President & Senator Polnut »

I guess he just wants them running his campaign?

Also, these people call themselves white nationalists now, so it's cool to criticise supremacists.
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« Reply #59 on: August 25, 2016, 09:29:00 PM »

Wow.
Asked if he wants votes from white supremacists, trump actually responded with a "No."
That is major news .... who would have thought ?
Thank you for posting this Seriously ..... I really did think that trump would have said Yes.
Fascinating .... just extraordinarily fascinating.
This is going to make the biggest difference ever !

I'm surprised he didn't try to dodge the question.
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« Reply #60 on: August 25, 2016, 09:31:26 PM »

Of course not, just white nationalists. Just like he doesn't want votes from racists, just people with racial resentment.
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« Reply #61 on: August 25, 2016, 09:39:30 PM »

Its good that he's saying it, even though he doesn't mean it.
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« Reply #62 on: August 25, 2016, 09:43:15 PM »

I like when he acted as if he didn't know who David Duke was even though he had rebuked him in 2000. Someone must have briefed him on white supremacists!
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« Reply #63 on: August 25, 2016, 09:44:09 PM »

Then I guess he isn't going to vote for himself.
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« Reply #64 on: August 25, 2016, 09:53:16 PM »

Just lost a large percentage of his base.
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« Reply #65 on: August 25, 2016, 10:08:35 PM »

Just lost a large percentage of his base.

No, he didn't.
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« Reply #66 on: August 25, 2016, 10:11:14 PM »

Wow. Where was this back when Duke endorsed him?
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« Reply #67 on: August 25, 2016, 10:13:49 PM »

Wow. Where was this back when Duke endorsed him?
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« Reply #68 on: August 25, 2016, 10:14:22 PM »

Wow. Where was this back when Duke endorsed him?

Back then, he was on the offensive in the GOP primary and running for the supremacist vote however tacitly he could.

Now, the narrative has been locked against him in the general electorate, and he's playing reactively at every point. He has no choice but to contradict himself or his original intents in an attempt of a final salvo for his campaign this late into the election.
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« Reply #69 on: August 25, 2016, 10:14:36 PM »

I think it's a stupid question and a stupid answer.
Because in truth, Trump and Hillary don't give a rat's a$$ if someone who casts a vote for them is a white supremacist.  A vote is a vote.  That's not to say they condone it.
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« Reply #70 on: August 25, 2016, 10:18:42 PM »

I think it's a stupid question and a stupid answer.
Because in truth, Trump and Hillary don't give a rat's a$$ if someone who casts a vote for them is a white supremacist.  A vote is a vote.  That's not to say they condone it.
It's a solid response. The question itself is a bit dumb, but the only reason this happened is due to Trump's own nonsense.
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« Reply #71 on: August 25, 2016, 10:19:52 PM »

Too late. You have already received them.
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« Reply #72 on: August 25, 2016, 10:30:12 PM »

The funny thing is that hillary's 2008 primary coalition was essentially what trump's is now. White working class people from non-urban areas.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/769006162926669824
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« Reply #73 on: August 25, 2016, 10:34:00 PM »

"#FlashbackFriday"... Isn't it Thursday? TOTAL DISASTER!

Also I wonder, if he started talking about Robert Byrd, would his numbers go down in WV?
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« Reply #74 on: August 25, 2016, 10:35:58 PM »

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