Where will Barack Obama be ranked in 20 years?

[Mr. Smith]

11-20, possibly 21-30.

He failed on practically everything he promised, or half-a$$ed it and allowed himself to be walked over, which allowed the Republican all minority, Senate minority, and now majority to be the true power of this country.

If Bill Clinton isn't in the top 10, if Jimmy Carter is somehow in the 30's, and George W. Bush is languishing at the bottom, and he responds to polarization the same way as either of them...the top 10 is definitely out.


And since he seems to be pretty much being Bill Clinton 2.0 minus the welfare backstabbing and slightly stronger in the pursuit of civil rights, he'll probably be somewhere between 15-17...at best.



If he had actually passed Single-payer healthcare, then he'd make it. But he waffled that.

[Mr. Smith]

anyone saying "be more objective, look at his failures etc." are forgetting how bad the average POTUS is. Obama being merely OK would promote him to the upper echelons.

Upper echelons yes, but absolutely NOT the top 10 which tends to be reserved more for those who go ALL the way one big issue and make it (such as LBJ and the Great Society, JFK and the Moon, FDR and the New Deal, Eisenhower and the Interstates)

[Mr. Smith]

anyone saying "be more objective, look at his failures etc." are forgetting how bad the average POTUS is. Obama being merely OK would promote him to the upper echelons.

Upper echelons yes, but absolutely NOT the top 10 which tends to be reserved more for those who go ALL the way one big issue and make it (such as LBJ and the Great Society, JFK and the Moon, FDR and the New Deal, Eisenhower and the Interstates)

Well LBJ did additionally go all the way in one other "big issue", but not one that I would, err, support.

Unfortunately also true.