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Oakvale
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« on: January 30, 2013, 05:54:58 PM »

I'm still skeptical of 2.2. What kind of "efforts" are necessary to qualify for a tax break? Can I send a couple of guys with weedeaters to a vacant lot for a couple of hours one day and qualify for a 10% tax break?

^ Yeah, that struck me too.

It seems like we're swimming in tax breaks all of a sudden, and while I'm not necessarily opposed to reducing the corporate tax burden in some circumstances giving them a 10% tax cut (that's a pretty, er, large number) for planting a few trees is way over the top.

No doubt if that passed we'd see Microsoft and McDonalds et al sending their employees out to plant a few ferns once a month to get that juicy tax break.

I agree that the original requirement about a certain number of trees surviving to adulthood seems excessive - how on earth do we propose to measure that?
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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2013, 12:50:48 PM »

I'm not necessarily opposed to the idea of a survival threshold, but how are we to measure such a thing? Check on the trees twenty years later and give the company a tax break then?
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2013, 03:07:26 PM »

I support Senator Nix's amendment - it removes the requirement I was most concerned about, the clause requiring a certain percentage of trees to survive to adulthood, but I have to echo the concerns about imposing a uniform requirement for varied ecoysystems. I'm not an ecologist, so I can't speak with any authority about this, so I'm open to persuasion. I'm assuming some studies have been done on this...
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2013, 08:00:54 PM »

I will vote for this if the amendment passes - however, should we consider imposing a limit on the maximum a company can be fined by the new Forestry Association?
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2013, 02:54:34 PM »

I will vote for this if the amendment passes - however, should we consider imposing a limit on the maximum a company can be fined by the new Forestry Association?

Does anyone have an opinion on this?

What would the Senator think of as an appropriate amount for this limit?

I think we should put a minimum limit if you want to impose a maximum.

Agreed, that's a good idea too.

I don't know what kind of figures you all want to deal with here - naturally we don't want just a slap on the wrist that a corporation can shrug off but I don't think it's good policy to be excessively punitive.
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2013, 06:27:47 PM »

I'll be the first to admit I literally have no idea what the appropriate penalty would be here. Are there, er, very small logging companies that would suffer a blow from being find $5,000?

I second Nix's point, too - let's not create anymore bureaucracy than absolutely necessary. We don't want to drown in a sea of red tape when all we're trying to do is get a few trees planted.
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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2013, 02:26:15 PM »

Aye.
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